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ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

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ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

Vodafone have recently launched MusicStation which for £1.99 per week gives you the choice of 1 millions songs to listen to via your mobile phone. In response to this blog on filesharing would you be interested in a music download service similar to Vodafone's MusicStation via your PlusNet broadband connection?
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gswindale
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

so basically, Vodafone have launched a "Napster for Mobiles" - presumably at a slightly reduced price compared to Napster due to the reduced quality of mobiles?
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

Didn't think this was the sort of thing I'd go for at first glance as I don't like the idea of reoccurring subscriptions for music downloads.
If the quality was good enough though, and I could cancel at any point (which I'm guessing probably wouldn't be the case) then it might actually work out cheaper then paying per song from vendors such as iTunes.

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geewizz
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

I would buy music online if it was of a higher quality than the currently available formats. Until then I'm sticking with the higher sample rates afforded by hard copy recordings.
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up


Would the files be downloaded to a PC or Laptop?
Can I burn a CD from those files?
If I download to a PC, can I transfer them to another HDD, ipod or my mobile phone and play them there too?
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geewizz
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

godsell4,
all formats that can be played back as audio can be burned to CD, transferred to a phone, uploaded, downloaded, mixed, squashed and just about anything else you want to do to them. Basically, if you can hear it then it's possible to make it into any format you choose.
Anyway, I think the formats are a detail that would be sorted out at a later date. For the sake of the question, an example site has been quoted. Just base the formats on the ones in there for the hypothetical model.
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

For me, if I could keep the tracks (without having to go through the hassle of recording streamed audio, which is usually too naff qualitywise to bother with) then I probably would. Having said that though, if hypothetically speaking I occasionally downloaded a track/EP/album/discography I don't think a service like this would stop me. Depends on price and quality though I guess.
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

I currently use the napster supscription service to download my music, but if it was better value and had the same volume of songs (3million+) then I would consider it.
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

Last music I bought was on vinyl and I expect the next will be too (although I have a fiver to spend at iTunes and have done for about about 3 months). I just prefer the sound of a record, digital, especially compressed digital just isn't the same. It's OK for listening to in the car but at home my records will always win out. A cheap subscription service might have an appeal if I could use it anywhere but not if it was limited just to home.
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

There isn't a button for "I don't want to download music by subscription (and lose the music when I stop subscribing).  I'd rather buy the music I want for a one-off price, and be able to use it forever on whatever device."  At the moment, that means buying CDs for me, but I can imagine buying a download if the quality was right and it was DRM-free.
I get the whole "music in the background from lots of artists" thing from streaming content - either traditional radio stations, or online streams - and wouldn't ever expect to pay for this at the point of use (obviously I pay for a broadband connection, listen to adverts if they are there, and pay for a TV licence which funds BBC radio stations, so I realise it's not totally free).
Martin
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

Quote from: snozboz
There isn't a button for "I don't want to download music by subscription (and lose the music when I stop subscribing).  I'd rather buy the music I want for a one-off price, and be able to use it forever on whatever device."

Ditto 100%. FWIW I have heard of a service which works by subscription yet allows one to keep their downloads once it's expired, but I'm not sure which service it is... I think it might be Nokia's new thing which they intend to combine in to the cost of a new mobile, although I might be thinking of something else altogether. But yes, I want to own my music, not rent it. I am, however, not against purchasing DRM tracks from iTunes as I use an iPod, although as I mostly buy classical music I often opt for the CD as they can be cheap (Naxos CDs can be found for £4-£5), and come with useful liner notes.
gswindale
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

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I am, however, not against purchasing DRM tracks from iTunes as I use an iPod.

I'm not against DRM tracks as such, but I am against those from iTunes as I don't wish to be tied in to an overpriced and overrated MP3 player. 
geewizz
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

I'm thinking of patronising a minstrel so that I can have music whenever I want. It would have the added bonus that the sound quality would be spot on and I could tell him what song I want to hear or just put him on a random setting. I could even get an extra seat on my bicycle so that he becomes portable.
And on Sundays I could share him with all the Plusnet customers by getting him to sing down my router. Do you think Plusnet would pay towards his keep if I offered this service?
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And on Sundays I could share him with all the Plusnet customers by getting him to sing down my router. Do you think Plusnet would pay towards his keep if I offered this service?

I'd donate if you took song requests. Wink
pierre_pierre
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Re: ISPs, File Sharing, P2P, UK Law and all that Jazz - A Follow Up

How about  "Its a long way to Tipperary " Angry