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Home Hub 5 announced
10-07-2013 4:36 PM
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just to let you know that BT announced today that they are upgrading the home hub 4 already to a new home hub 5, externally they appear identical so whats the difference? and what will this mean ?
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2013/07/uk-isp-bt-unveils-new-home-hub-5-vdsl2-broadband-wirele...
http://recombu.com/digital/news/bt-home-hub-5-wifi-ac-dual-band-hands-on-pictures_M11821.html
1) a built-in VDSL2 connection for those not sure what it means you no longer need a openreach modem
2) all nic connections updated to GIGAbyte connections instead of 4 on 100mbs under the home hub 4
3) it supports the new dual-band WiFi AC standard
Officially BT say that they will be rolling this hub out on all new FTTC later this year and because following today's announcement FTTP connections are about to be upgraded speeds to up to 300mbs/20mbs Down (for £50 - ouch! - yes some lucky folks already got these speeds if they had an FTTP install done since late FEB 2013) ,
firstly with so much criticism of the HomeHub4 the minor spec change is a welcome update, but whats more interesting is what this announcement really means that BT are about to do.
firstly as stated in the press both Buzzbe and its partners could post this modem to you in advance like what they do already to new customers, so in the short term it finally means an end to needing the Huawei or ECI modem which are being retired by the manufacturer and in a way it answer the prays of many all household who didn't want two boxes on the wall.
but what this announcement also means this service providers are now gearing up (like EE did last week with there announcement of brightbox 2) for the yet to be announced (yet imminent) self install VDSL2 option. so just like dsl lines if your phone number is FTTC enabled you plug in the necessary filters and the modem in on a particular day and the overreach engineer will activate your line to VDSL2+ no openreach home visit is needed.
expect to see further news on this around mid/end of august
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
10-07-2013 4:43 PM
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Re: Home Hub 5 announced
10-07-2013 4:55 PM
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Re: Home Hub 5 announced
10-07-2013 5:03 PM
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Re: Home Hub 5 announced
10-07-2013 5:34 PM
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Re: Home Hub 5 announced
10-07-2013 8:42 PM
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Quote from: Ram64man all nic connections updated to GIGAbyte connections instead of 4 on 100mbs under the home hub 4
Could lead to new problems...
Quote from: Ram64man following today's announcement FTTP connections are about to be upgraded speeds to up to 300mbs/20mbs Down (for £50 - ouch! - yes some lucky folks already got these speeds if they had an FTTP install done since late FEB 2013) ,
Not on PlusNet they don't. Nobody gets more than 80Mbps. But then it isn't charged at 50 quid a month either!
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
10-07-2013 9:53 PM
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Not on PlusNet they don't. Nobody gets more than 80Mbps. But then it isn't charged at 50 quid a month either!
I do
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
11-07-2013 12:04 AM
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a bit of details for you regarding vdsl2+ vectorings, at the moment its a bit early to say as I haven't seen the spec details to say if its compatible but I expect it will be (if it useds the same combo chipset as EE's brightbox2), after going to a vectoring example conference earlier this year on behalf of a company I worked for at the time) BT are and will be still using a huawei device with a custom V3 firmware and the known trials are being used for a number of reasons, these reasons include:
1) currently unable to to FTTC because of severe electrical noise because of heavy industry, (high output electrical , radar microwaves, high use of aluminum in ring or OLD infrastructure ) affecting end user speeds.
2) currently very slow speeds because of overhead connections away from Dslam (tests > 2500m distance) where speeds are expected to be only approx 5mbs under current FTTC)
3) test examples of mission critical businesses that have up till now had to use multi line DSL line bonding
4) testing DSLAMs that are multi-use boxes e,g, lease line connections Centry21, ADSL+, SDSL, FTTC Lev 1 & 2 (from what I have seen no trial involves a dslam that has end user on FTTP)
5) VERY LIMITED trials of above option 2 speeds, eg. 100mbs (in the lap environment we saw speeds of >120, yet real world testing taking in line quality expect to see 105mbs - overhead) for true speeds increases however vectoring have to be combined with G.fast connections and at the moment there are only a couple of out the lab trials in the uk so don't expect any G-fast announcements this year, as current DSLAMs and hubs are not compatible.
6) use in local Government remote CCTV connections & it was also mentioned one business customer planned to use it in high volume remote ATMS where up till now have been reliant on the wireless 800mhz access)
also one of the trial DSLAMS unknown to BT customers has been using Vertoring since march following it being unceremonious disconnected (dslam vs truck) but this cabinet has been used to see how the technology copes with other modems etc that are not Vertoring compatible against the trials that were and if it improves the speeds when on or off. from what I've seen so far because of the number of devices in use with old modems were talking just a few mbs increases on <600m not record breaking speeds, this aim of this trails is more of a way of getting quoted option 2 speeds. i believe more information can be found if you Google Frontier communications E348
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
11-07-2013 1:17 AM
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Re: Home Hub 5 announced
11-07-2013 12:43 PM
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Quote from: Iain03 I do to
Wow over 90Mb/s hashtag Envious!!
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
11-07-2013 1:30 PM
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Last modification January 2013
Page 21
Clause 3.2.2
"R.VDSL2.12 The Modem shall support 17HMz Vectoring as defined in G.993.5"
I have no idea when that clause was inserted in the Sine as I don't have previous editions and the revisions status notes doe not record it.
(The last mod' included a PHY layer re-transmission clause)
So all modems from all suppliers must comply with the Sine to be authorized to be connected to the BT network.
That leaves older ones from previous years non compliant that may upset vectoring (Solution - replace them)
also of course those lines still on ADSL2 in the cable bundle which not a lot can be done about as they are outside the control of the FTTC cabinet vectoring.
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
11-07-2013 3:32 PM
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Quote from: KevinAndrews Wow over 90Mb/s hashtag Envious!!
Yeah... me too! Envious, that is. Definitely no need for GigE ports to support FTTP speeds over here (although we have both the FTTP and the GigE ports we thought we would need!)
Despite a 3ms ping, I'm only reaching 68.57Mbps today, based on downloading the TBB 1GB file on port 80.
Admittedly a substantial improvement over ADSL, but FTTP isn't all it's cracked up to be if there's congestion or some other kind of limitation at the exchange or beyond, whatever your router (and that result was actually a double-check direct from the ONT using a gigabit ethernet card, just to be absolutely sure there was nothing in the way.)
So PlusNet have some work to do in conjunction with Openreach before they can themselves confidently start shipping high performance routers to everyone instead of the Technicolor. Once you remove "Oh, it must be your line" and "Oh, it must be your router" from the troubleshooting possibilities, things start to get sticky.
Looks like the PlusNet network does deliver high throughput in some places, though... Are those figures consistent?
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
11-07-2013 6:54 PM
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Quote from: w23 Be very intersting to know if DSL stats will be visible for FTTC.
I'm patiently waiting for someone to offer an ECI based/compatible VDSL2 modem for sensible money for my 'stats' fix
Re: Home Hub 5 announced
13-07-2013 5:10 AM
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Quote from: KevinAndrews
Quote from: Iain03 I do to
Wow over 90Mb/s hashtag Envious!!
Me too. Got 2 lines here (one PlusNet, the other BT, both Business lines), PlusNet line is running at 72Mb (was 78Mb when it was first installed on the 8th), the BT line at 78Mb.
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