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Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
28-06-2014 10:20 PM
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Quote from: TORPC however as we already know that not all Cabinets are released to other ISP's as BT hogs some for themselves
By God I've seen some rubbish posted on these forums, but that really takes the biscuit!
Please post some verified evidence to support that assertion.
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
28-06-2014 11:15 PM
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Pn website says
There are already BT customers on FTTC in my street
I was hoping that PN's website is out of date & can accept FTTC orders
Is that proof enough for you ?
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
28-06-2014 11:27 PM
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Do any of the other flats in your block have the ability to order FTTC? Do the BT customers you refer to live in the houses to the south of your block?
I strongly suspect that your flats are not fed from the same cabinet as the local houses so the fact that they can get FTTC is not an indication that you can unfortunately.
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
28-06-2014 11:34 PM
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Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
28-06-2014 11:55 PM
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1. There's an error on the BT database. You are shown as being connected to the wrong cabinet number.
2. There's an error on the BT database. If the cabinet number is correct you need to do a BT Wholesale check by telephone number for someone on the same cabinet who has FTTC. Present that to Plusnet and they'll get the records corrected.
3. You are connected to a different cabinet to the neighbours who have FTTC. You can verify that by using the BT Wholesale check by telephone number.
If you seriously believe that BT are holding back FTTC availability to their own customers and have proof of such I recommend you post here: http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre.html
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Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 12:07 AM
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Quote from: TORPC http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/ confirms that it is in my area & accepting orders
That reports to exchange level only. If there is ONE cabinet accepting orders, all postcodes covered by the exchange will appear to be accepting orders. Try SP7 9QL. That's in a village outside of Shaftesbury which has FTTC in some areas. I went past the existing cabinet a couple of days ago - there's not even paint to show where the new cabinet will go yet! The address checker says 2015.
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Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 12:43 AM
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Quote from: jelv Three possibilities (at least):
1. There's an error on the BT database. You are shown as being connected to the wrong cabinet number.
2. There's an error on the BT database. If the cabinet number is correct you need to do a BT Wholesale check by telephone number for someone on the same cabinet who has FTTC. Present that to Plusnet and they'll get the records corrected.
3. You are connected to a different cabinet to the neighbours who have FTTC. You can verify that by using the BT Wholesale check by telephone number.
If you seriously believe that BT are holding back FTTC availability to their own customers and have proof of such I recommend you post here: http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre.html
1. I am connected to the correct reported cabinet as I am on ADSL, the FTTC cabinet will have a different number to the ADSL cabinet
2. Of course I am on a different cabinet to those on FTTC as I am on the ADSL cabinet which is at least 100 yards closer than the FTTC cabinet
3. See 1
See screenshot
There are neighbours that are clearly on FTTC with BT
All I want to know & only PN can answer is
Is PN active in my nearest cabinet, & If not, is there any proposed dates as & when this could happen
By both phone & postcode / door number
http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/broadband/packages?Infinity=yes
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 6:09 AM
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Quote from: TORPC 1. I am connected to the correct reported cabinet as I am on ADSL, the FTTC cabinet will have a different number to the ADSL cabinet
No. FTTC cabinets do not have a different number. If your phone line goes to cabinet 50, then there will need to be an FTTC cabinet beside cabinet 50 for you to get FTTC. The only way to know that 50 is your correct cabinet number would be to physically trace your telephone cable to that cabinet, but of course it's not really possible for you to do that, especially if your telephone line is underground.
Quote from: TORPC 2. Of course I am on a different cabinet to those on FTTC as I am on the ADSL cabinet which is at least 100 yards closer than the FTTC cabinet
FTTC cabinets are normally placed much closer to the existing cabinet than 100 yards, usually they are placed beside the existing cabinet, sometimes they might be placed on the other side of the road.
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 7:47 AM
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I think it is 50m...usualy its is much less - like 25meters.
They may indeed be across the road usually this is done to make it easy to connect up to a power supply as it is more expensive to take power 10 or so meters distance than it is for a load of telecoms cables.
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 10:35 AM
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Quote from: TORPC 1. I am connected to the correct reported cabinet as I am on ADSL, the FTTC cabinet will have a different number to the ADSL cabinet
2. Of course I am on a different cabinet to those on FTTC as I am on the ADSL cabinet which is at least 100 yards closer than the FTTC cabinet
Thank you for confirming that you are totally ignorant of how FTTC is implemented. Here's a simple schematic for how it is connected:
Exchange (POTS) <------> POTS cabinet <-------> Home
^
|
v
Exchange (fibre) <-----> FTTC cabinet
----- is copper (or aluminium), ----- is fibre
Note that for small exchanges the POTS and FTTC exchange may not be the same as the fibre is fed direct from a larger nearby exchange.
Just to nail it in to his head could anyone who has upgraded to FTTC confirm whether or not the cabinet number shown by the BT telephone number checker changed when they upgraded to FTTC.
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Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 11:07 AM
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There is a new separate cabinet that is FTTC that I am not connected to
The number on the ADSL cabinet is as reported correctly as the one I am connected to as I AM NOT CONNECTED to the FTTC cabinet (therefore it will not report back that I am connected to the FTTC cabinet)
As clearly stated
THIS IS a question for PN to answer
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 11:08 AM
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Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 11:14 AM
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& who are you to tell / advise I stop posting ?
I want an answer from PN in that they either have or have not got Fibre hooked up in my area
Only PN can answer that for goodness sake
2 yes 2 pages wasted for PN only answer (says it all really)
Edit:
At least TalkTalk is hooked up to supply fibre
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 11:26 AM
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Quote from: TORPC The FTTC cabinet has been placed on the opposite side of the RD which is further away than the ADSL cabinet since approx Nov - Dec 2013
What is an ADSL cabinet?
Re: Have PN got fibre in my area
29-06-2014 11:46 AM
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