Graphics can reveal (real) user names
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Graphics can reveal (real) user names
04-01-2008 1:00 PM
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2) More significantly, because I have a very low usage web site, the stats for the "Top 30 sites" shows quite a few xxxxx.plus.com or xxxxxx.force9.co.uk entries. It's a good guess that xxxxx is the true user name....
Examples can be provided via pm.
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
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04-01-2008 1:06 PM
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Phil
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04-01-2008 1:07 PM
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I'm a bit lost as to why this is seen as a bug - its simply the way the internet works.
Perhaps the real problem is that your webspace is the same as your username?
I'll leave it here for a while to see what other think, but honestly I do not see this as a Community Site Bug.
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04-01-2008 1:13 PM
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I could move it to another of my sites but it doesn't seem to have caused any problems as yet
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04-01-2008 1:16 PM
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04-01-2008 1:32 PM
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Shouldn't the rDNS entries be changed en-mass to something less personal. I know it can be requested, but most people don't know of the trail they are leaving all over the internet!
In my opinion the default for new entries should be ip_add_re_ss.force9.co.uk/plus.com for everyone unless specifically requested manually (I think this happened. Anyone know?)
However, PlusNet should also have a mass migration to that format for ALL existing customers, with an email sent offering an opt-out of the change for those educated ones who want to keep the existing format for a reason.
Just because customers don't know it is happening, doesn't mean it is OK and they agree to it. Hence it is an area where the customers should be protected without having to be knowledgeable, but also should be educated to the potential risks.
Yes, maybe some of them should have been more thoughtful when they chose their username, but they have what they have and deserve the best privacy protection they can be offered.
I'm guessing the "average" user won't have a website, and will only send emails to relatively small circle of contacts... so will assume their username is relatively hidden... but will be unaware of their username being available in rDNS lookup available in all website logs of websites they visit.
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04-01-2008 2:07 PM
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I do know I have no issue with the world knowing my username, and TBH I can't see why anybody else has a problem with it.
The worst anybody could do with my account is use my ADSL or email without my knowledge - but to use my ADSL they would have to be a PN customer anyway (to have the pertinant realm added to their asset), and if they are already a customer - what is to gain by having their useage counted on my account?
You can't steal bandwidth I don't have
They could use my email address, and pretend to be me - whoopy do!
Anybody can pretend to be anybody else on an outgoing email anyway.
They could read the emails in my inbox - so what?
Email is insecure, and can be read by anybody who cares to make the effort anyway - why would they try harder to get into my inbox?
They could find out my address, but there are easier ways to do that too.
I can't see what the fuss is all about, but perhaps I'm missing the point somewhere....?
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04-01-2008 2:37 PM
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The easy(ish) way round this would be for PlusNet to donate a small amount of space for forum images on some generic forum directory.
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
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04-01-2008 3:34 PM
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04-01-2008 3:56 PM
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I guess the question asking about some webspace being made available centrally for graphics, would come into the "feature request" category, whereas the other two issues are general privacy concerns.
The rDNS issue I think requires a policy change at PlusNet to remove usernames retrospectively for ALL users and either way is also an issue for further education about privacy issues on the web.
People hosting graphics on their sigs are a "more advanced" type user, who should be able to choose for themselves where they host the image for correct display without giving away info they are unhappy to give away. I'm sure they could upload it to somewhere like imageshack (Not that I've ever used them... but I think that is what they are for), which would be avoiding their usernames.
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04-01-2008 3:59 PM
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Nonetheless it is an interesting debate to have? PUGIT 116 raised Aug 06 addresses this issue, with PUGIT 339 (July 07) addressing the linked issue of poor rDNS houskeeping.
Currently PUGIT 116 has the highest user vote count ( 55 ) in the PUGIT system, but implementation is still in the mythical 'Next quarter' for implementation. Last response from Plusnet Aug 07
MauriceC
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Re: Graphics can reveal (real) user names
05-01-2008 6:54 PM
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because I uploaded it to this site from my computer as I have done for other forums. I see you can't do the same for signatures though.
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