Fibre/router positioning
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Fibre/router positioning
18-05-2011 8:19 AM
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However, I need to figure out what my options are for positioning the kit.
At the moment the BT master socket is on a windowsill in an upstairs bedroom. From this, an extension cable goes outside the house, and re-enters downstairs. My current broadband and phone both run off this downstairs extension.
There is no electrical socket within useful range of the master socket (for plugging in the Fibre modem OR the router).
I understand installation can include a data cable; can that go outside the house and back in again like the current phone extension? Or put another way, will the BT engineer be prepared to drill holes through my walls?
Re: Fibre/router positioning
18-05-2011 11:17 AM
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The engineer will fit, upon request, a data extension kit of up to 30m. I'm quite sure he will endeavour to locate it wherever you want within that range. Does it go outside and back in for convenience or is there no other physical way it can go?
Jojo
Re: Fibre/router positioning
18-05-2011 12:13 PM
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Re: Fibre/router positioning
18-05-2011 12:21 PM
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best thing to do is have a word with him. They're normally quite accommodating.
Jojo
Re: Fibre/router positioning
18-05-2011 8:47 PM
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Mathew
Re: Fibre/router positioning
18-05-2011 8:53 PM
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Quote from: Joanne Hi AxeMurderer,
best thing to do is have a word with him. They're normally quite accommodating.
Jojo
I'd like to note Joanne that today my engineer did not bring or even have a data extentsion cable even though I requested one and Plusnet confirmed yesterday he would be bringing one.
He said none of the engineers have them across the country as there is a shortage of the cable for some reason.
So hold this in mind.
Re: Fibre/router positioning
18-05-2011 9:57 PM
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I'll see what the engineer can do, but there is a good chance that I'll end up running a temporary mains extension lead to the master socket, then installing my own 'data extension cable' probably made from external grade cat 5 with RJ11 plugs, then moving everything to exactly where I want it.
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 3:31 AM
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http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13751/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMzA1NzcxOTY1L3NpZC9JbWl...
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 9:04 AM
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It talks about plugging the new hub directly into the master socket. I thought the "hub" had to plug into the modem, and the modem had to go into the master socket.
Certainly they emphasise that the internal extension wiring *isn't* good enough for the Infinity, and insist it is either the master, or the data extension.
Using FTTC since 2011. Currently on 80/20 Unlimited Fibre Extra.
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 9:06 AM
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This video on the BT website confirms this - BT_Infinity_Installation
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 9:36 AM
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Quote from: knowdice This was discussed under another topic yesterday, JoJo comfirmed that it's an extension between the master socket and the VDSL modem i.e RJ11 connectors
Using what sort of cable though? In particular, will a customer's existing cabling be considered for suitability if it meets the necessary spec?
Bottom line for me is that I don't want a BT engineer stapling cable to the top of a skirting board when I can run my own cable beforehand within the fabric of the building and so knowing what spec cable, or indeed the principle in general, is acceptable would be a great help.
Quote This video on the BT website confirms this - BT_Infinity_Installation
Apologies if that link provides the answer - I can't view it from work.
Mathew
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 9:46 AM
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They don't tell you exactly what spec the extension cable is, though it's my experience that conventional telephone cable does degrade broadband signals very rapidly.
Bear in mind that the cable from the FTTC cabinet to your house IS a just high quality twisted pair that I think is not even screened, so an extension cable of CAT5e "could" be OK, but don't expect the BT engineer to use this
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 10:59 AM
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Definition from a computer mag.
RJ11 telephone connector that holds up to six wires. RJ11 is the common connector used to plug a telephone into the wall and also plug the handset into the telephone.
The BT Infinity Data Extension Kit, as far as I can see, may be of a specific quality but it telephone wire.
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 11:35 AM
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There's telephone wire and there's telephone wire, that's why we've got standards in place to distinguish between them so the most useful piece of info I'd like to see is what standard(s) is/are acceptable and whether it has to be terminated or can be hardwired into the master socket (it is obviously hardwired at the secondary socket).
I appreciate this sort of info is of no interest to the average consumer but I am amazed it is not stated somewhere for those who it does concern!
Mathew
Re: Fibre/router positioning
19-05-2011 1:31 PM
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What you are looking for is cable that is low resistance but more importantly low capacitance and with a consistent twist to the pairs...CAT5e fits the bill normal telephone cable doesn't
Could also be that BT extension cable is screened but I don't know how that would connect to earth...
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