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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 12:26 PM
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 12:53 PM
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 1:18 PM
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The photo of the Master Linebox isn't 100% clear, but it looks as though just Blue-white & White-blue are connected to terminals 2 & 5. Please confirm.
The type of connector on the Linebox and on the socket image 39 are called IDC (Insulation Displacement Connector). When connecting to these the wire with insulation is just pushed into place, you need to be careful that you don't open up the jaws of the terminal, it is best to get a small IDC tool, plastic ones available cheap at places like Maplins, B&Q prices between 60p and £1.50 ish (sometimes it's called a krone tool).
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 1:24 PM
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Re:Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 1:24 PM
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 1:26 PM
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The only other point of note is that my SNR drops as it goes dark. from 6db down to 2ish. Is that something that can coincide with time of day ? (I'm guessing street lighting and everyones electrics kicking in generates inteferance ?)
Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 1:49 PM
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 3:33 PM
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Then, on the Master front plate, gently check that the wires on 2 & 5 are not fractured at the terminals and are in position correctly, if they aren't you have to remove whichever, trim off the broken bit and remake with the punch down tool.
On the last socket, the wires on 2 & 5 should be Blue-white on 2, White-blue on 5. So remove the Orange wires and the incorrectly placed White-blue and refit the White-blue to 5. Coil up the Orange-white & White-orange wires to the back of the cable out of the way ensuring no bare bits can contact anything. Refit socket to box.
On the intermediate one with the screw terminals, loosen the screws and remove all the wires. Cut off any bare ends from any wires except the Blue-white & White-blue on both cables. Coil up the other wires out of the way as before.
Trim the bare bits on the Blue-white & White-blue wires so they are just long enough to go into the connector without bare bits showing (not too short - re-strip if needed). The wires should go under the small metal strip in the connector where they don't get chewed by the screw (if present on a decent socket). Note this socket hasn't got IDC terminals, which is why the wire ends should be bare.
Fit both Blue-whites to 2 and gently tighten the screw to secure. The same with the White-blues on 5.
Now this socket is an old style master, which has a capacitor and resistor that you don't want (or need).
The capacitor is the yellow sausage device marked C1 horizontally above the plug socket and the resistor is marked R1 to it's left in the picture. Cut both off by their wires using your cutter and remove them.
The device on the RHS is a Surge suppressor and can be left in place.
OK check the wires are secure, neat and tidy and refit the socket to the box.
Are you home between say 9.00am and 3.30pm.? As I wouldn't recommend removing your router and reconnecting the master except during these times to ensure you get the best sync. Remember to powerdown the modem/router and wait several minutes before unplugging the line/filter from the test socket.
Refit the master, then with a corded phone and filter, check that all sockets work ok.
If all ok, plug your router into the filter at the desired location and power up.
Post back stats taken immediately after sync.
Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
11-11-2009 4:50 PM
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Quote from: jelv Hopefully Chris (Anotherone) will be around sometime today - he's the expert on this (hence the nickname (Alex Bell) given to him by ASBO).
I told you he was the expert!
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
24-11-2009 12:03 PM
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Tue, 2009-11-17 13:19:35 - Receive NTP Reply from time-g.netgear.com
Thu, 2009-11-19 00:58:54 - LCP down.
Thu, 2009-11-19 00:59:01 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 00:59:01 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:00:02 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:00:02 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:01:02 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:01:03 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:02:03 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:02:03 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:03:04 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:03:04 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:04:05 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:04:05 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:05:05 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:05:05 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:06:06 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:06:06 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:07:07 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:07:07 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:08:07 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:08:07 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:09:08 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:09:08 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:10:09 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:10:09 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:11:09 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:11:10 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:12:10 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:12:10 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:13:11 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:13:11 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:14:06 - Loss of synchronization :28
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:14:12 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:14:12 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:14:58 - CHAP authentication success
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:22:36 - Loss of synchronization :29
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:31:28 - LCP down.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:31:35 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:31:35 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:32:35 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:32:35 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:33:36 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:33:36 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:34:37 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:34:37 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:35:37 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:35:37 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:35:41 - CHAP authentication success
Fri, 2009-11-20 11:19:35 - Send out NTP request to time-g.netgear.com
Fri, 2009-11-20 11:19:41 - Receive NTP Reply from time-g.netgear.com
Mon, 2009-11-23 09:19:41 - Send out NTP request to time-g.netgear.com
Mon, 2009-11-23 09:19:46 - Receive NTP Reply from time-g.netgear.com
Mon, 2009-11-23 15:11:03 - LCP down.
Mon, 2009-11-23 15:11:09 - Initialize LCP.
Mon, 2009-11-23 15:11:09 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Mon, 2009-11-23 15:12:10 - Initialize LCP.
Mon, 2009-11-23 15:12:10 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Mon, 2009-11-23 15:12:40 - CHAP authentication success
Tue, 2009-11-24 10:38:10 - LCP down.
Tue, 2009-11-24 10:40:52 - Initialize LCP.
Tue, 2009-11-24 10:40:52 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Tue, 2009-11-24 10:40:52 - Loss of synchronization :30
Tue, 2009-11-24 10:41:53 - Initialize LCP.
Tue, 2009-11-24 10:41:53 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Tue, 2009-11-24 10:41:56 - CHAP authentication success
Any thoughts ?
Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
24-11-2009 12:52 PM
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To activate it you need to go to http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=ppp_debug
To view the log go to http://dg834/ppp_log
You might get more information about why it dropped.
In there you will see a lot about when it tries to authenticate, it inludes a line that will look something like:
rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x99 <8def69ee034c04926e723394ee7ab328>, name = "PTN-AG2"]
so you will be able to see which gateway you tried to authenticate to.
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
24-11-2009 1:02 PM
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rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x93 <5b7b92037b411274c061c07b982df856>, name = "pcl-ag01"]
Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
24-11-2009 1:09 PM
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At some stage you will need to disable the logging (after a few days because I'm not sure if the log cycles or if you could fill up it's memory and slow it down) - a reboot of the router does this so if you reboot for any reason and still want to look at the log you will need to enable it again.
Did you notice that that the first chap challenge shows you which BT RAS your connection goes through?
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
24-11-2009 1:12 PM
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Re: Close to resolution i think but need advice
24-11-2009 1:29 PM
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