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Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 11:45 AM
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Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
298 Kbps
0 Kbps 500 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 298 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 50-500 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :1280 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 350 Kbps
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This is how it was Yesterday
Test1 comprises of Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
880 Kbps
0 Kbps 2000 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speedachieved during the test was - 880 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 400-2000 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :1472 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 1250 Kbps
I have raised a ticket and am fearful this may be something to do with me changing my account
jim:green Apologies for editing your post but I have tidied it up to make it easier to follow by removing spaces and extraneous information mod:end
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 11:54 AM
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IP Profile for your line is - 350 Kbps
Can you post the stats from your router - noise margin, speeds and attenuation
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 11:58 AM
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Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 12:04 PM
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Does the router log give the time it happened or the WAN (Internet) uptime
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 12:21 PM
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General Information
DSLAM: Country: {0x0F} Vendor: {ALCB} Specific: {0x00}
DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)
Downstream Rate Cap: 8128 kbps
Downstream Atten. at 300kHz: 68.4 dB
Uncancelled Echo: -14.1 dB Ok
VCXO Frequency Offset: 24.2 ppm Ok
Final Rx Gain: 34.5 dB Ok
Impulse Noise Comp. Tones: 0 Ok
Excessive Impulse Noise: 0 Ok
Impulse noise protection: 0.00
Delay of latency path: 0.25 ms
Training History
Downstream Upstream
Time Line Rate Max1 Max2 Max3 Mgn1 Mgn2 Attn Pwr CRCs FECs INP DLY Rate Max Mgn Attn Pwr CRCs FECs Mode Vendor State Exit Code Echo VCXO Rx Gain INC Tones
2010/01/18 21:05:51 GMT 1 1472 1476 664 664 12.0 3.0 67.7 16.8 64202 0 0.00 0.25 448 676 13.0 31.5 11.9 1878 402 G.DMT Annex A Alcatel 230/105 ERR_LOS_LIMIT -16.4 21.4 34.5 0
2010/01/19 06:41:41 GMT 1 512 540 1216 1216 12.7 19.0 68.2 15.1 189 0 0.00 0.25 448 648 12.0 31.5 11.9 19 1 G.DMT Annex A Alcatel 230/105 RETRAIN_HIGHER -20.7 24.4 34.5 0
2010/01/19 11:53:10 GMT 1 1280 1308 1236 1236 12.3 12.0 68.0 16.5 220 0 0.00 0.25 448 672 13.0 31.5 11.9 75 4 G.DMT Annex A Alcatel 229/103 N/A -14.1 24.2 34.5 0
Notes:
Time Time of last update
Max1 Max. rate at start of connection
Max2 Current or final estimated max. rate
Max3 Current or final estimated max. rate without INC
Mgn1 Noise margin at start of connection
Mgn2 Current or final noise margin
State Internal training state
Exit Code Cause of retrain
INP Impulse noise protection
DLY Delay of latency path
Bitloading
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 12:23 PM
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Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 12:27 PM
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Speed Start Noise Margin End Noise Margin
2010/01/18 21:05:51 GMT 1 1472 kbps 12dB 3dB
2010/01/19 06:41:41 GMT 1 512 kbps 12.7dB 19dB
2010/01/19 11:53:10 GMT 1 1280 kbps 12.3dB 12dB
Note the sync speeds, noise margins and times
The 512kbps sync is what killed the ipProfile
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 12:30 PM
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Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 12:35 PM
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Does the time help you identify what happened?
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 12:38 PM
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The first thing is that you have a very long line and will always struggle to get good speeds.
Can you describe the wiring in your property -
Is there a master socket and, if so, are you connected to it.
Are there other sockets in the property in addition to the master socket
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 1:03 PM
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a phone on my desk ( hard wired ??) The other wire goes to a three handset walk around dect phone in another part of the house The B.T man came and checked it all not long ago, they did the wires to the socket. I see no reason why the line should drop this morning , we do have low flying helicopters here , and sometimes mains failure due to bird strike bit no this morning
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 1:17 PM
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It doesn't appear that your internal wiring has much/any room for improvement.
Was there a phone call at the time of the disconnect - if there was it is possible that the ringing could have tipped the balance.
The point is that with the 2 Wire router it will hang on to the connection when other routers just give up the ghost but when it finally gives up at the time of maximum noise a resync takes you back to the default noise margin of 12dB which gives you the low sync speed.
I doubt that there is much you can do about it although a drop in noise margin from 12dB to 3dB is unusual. Can you monitor the noise margin in the evening and see what it drops to.
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 1:59 PM
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(I hope the DECT base unit isn't too close to the router! It needs to be a few feet away preferably)
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 2:18 PM
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From the 2700 logs the first resync at
Quote 2010/01/18 21:05:51 GMT 1 1472 1476 664 664 12.0 3.0
as Jim said was due to the noise margin dropping from an initial 12 to 3db.
The second resync at
shows that the noise margin had actually risen to 19db from an initial 12.7 and the 2700 apparently resynched because it recongnised it could retrain to a higher speed ( I didnt know it could do that !! ). The final set of stats are, of course, showing the current status at 12db.
Quote 2010/01/19 06:41:41 GMT 1 512 540 1216 1216 12.7 19.0
Have you looked at the Bit loading graph ( on the bottom of the DSL diagnostics page IIRC ) to see how that changes at different times of the day ? that might give a clue as to any possible external interference.
Superusers are not staff, but they do have a direct line of communication into the business in order to raise issues, concerns and feedback from the community.
Re: Changed my deal and speed falls
19-01-2010 4:01 PM
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