Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
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Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 5:07 PM
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Quote from: shure Can I just add that BEFORE you remove the ADSL filter from the Master socket (or do anything with the wiring) you should power down your modem and router. Leave them at least ten minutes before powering them back on again. Don't just pull everything out of the socket as it could be viewed as a problem on your line and you might end up with a drastically reduced IP profile. This happened to me last week. Powering off as described above should prevent that
Doh! Too late
I did wonder if I should turn it off or not. I don't know what an IP profile is, but I'll cross that bridge if/when I come to it.
PeterLoftus, no our sky boxes aren't connected unless we plug them into the phone line. Thanks for your reply
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 5:11 PM
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Normally very good advice but in this case it won't make any difference since the IP profile is already about as low as it could go!
Quote Don't just pull everything out of the socket as it could be viewed as a problem on your line and you might end up with a drastically reduced IP profile.
@GetThisBusOut, The sky boxes MUST be plugged in via a filter. For the time being you will have to connect the Sky boxes via the filter at the end of the extension where the router is. If possible , can you leave the Sky boxes disconnected for a while ?
All these extension cables are really not good but lets see how your broadband works now we've got rid of the incorrect connection.
If possible can you post your router stats as described in 1) and current line speed as in 3) in the first post of this thread here
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Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 5:29 PM
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There are loads on eBay/Amazon etc for about £2. Here's one design:
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 5:41 PM
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Quote from: MisterW @shure, Normally very good advice but in this case it won't make any difference since the IP profile is already about as low as it could go!
Quote Don't just pull everything out of the socket as it could be viewed as a problem on your line and you might end up with a drastically reduced IP profile.
@GetThisBusOut, The sky boxes MUST be plugged in via a filter. For the time being you will have to connect the Sky boxes via the filter at the end of the extension where the router is. If possible , can you leave the Sky boxes disconnected for a while ?
All these extension cables are really not good but lets see how your broadband works now we've got rid of the incorrect connection.
If possible can you post your router stats as described in 1) and current line speed as in 3) in the first post of this thread here
I think you meant to put a link there somewhere? Or is it me? I'll keep the sky boxes unplugged, not bothered about them.
I've ordered the goodies! 15m of the cable that was linked to from shure's thread (from Tandy). One of those two hole extension boxes, a krone clone punchdown tool and a bag of cable clips. Have I forgotten anything?
HPSauce, that looks good, thank you. I'm amazed at all these things you can get.
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 5:43 PM
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What you really need now though is a filtered faceplate, ideally an SSFP Mk3......
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 5:45 PM
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Oops :-[, I did http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,96155.0.html
Quote I think you meant to put a link there somewhere? Or is it me?
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Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 6:06 PM
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Uptime: 0 days, 1:10:57
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.1
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 8,128
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 42.65 / 301.39
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 13.9
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 4.0 / 5.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 27.0 / 15.3
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / TSTC
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 9 / -
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 1 / -
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / -
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 30 / -
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 67
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1
HEC Errors (Up/Down): - / 1
And this is the speed:
Estimated line speed:
8Mb (Download speed could vary depending on line conditions. Estimates are the maximum speeds that your phone line can support. These speeds are dependent on the package you choose.) - Checked on 2014-12-29 10:39:26
Current line speed:
0.5 Mb
I did these the other day before I started this thread. The speed was the same. The router stats were different, but I can't remember where I saved them to. I'll have a look.
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 6:22 PM
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Is the Telephone Exchange blocking your view?
You should be screaming along at warp factor 11. That extra filter has really messed you up.
Hopefully it will settle down (and speed up) in time, but it may need PN staff to do a reset on the line once all the wiring is done and dusted and the stats checked again.
What exchange are you on, that could be the best you can get on some.
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 6:25 PM
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limited to 8Mb which is possibly down to limitations at your exchange. Do you know which telephone exchange you're on, don't post the number ( this is a public forum) just the exchange name.
Edit: HP types faster than me
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Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 6:37 PM
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HPSauce, why do I need that Mk3 VDSL plate, or was that a joke?
I'm making the tea right now, so if I don't reply to anyone for the next 40 minutes or so, that's why!
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 6:42 PM
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Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 6:53 PM
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Light-hearted maybe, but not a joke.
Quote from: GetThisBusOut HPSauce, why do I need that Mk3 VDSL plate, or was that a joke?
They are good for optimising the signal and simplifying the wiring, especially if you are adding your own extension wiring.
Given how close you are to the exchange (under 400 metres I'd guess) there's not much point in hyper-optimising though.
Sadly your exchange is ADSL1 only, so 8mbps is the best you will get.
With a faceplate there are separate (hidden) terminals for attaching an extension that will carry broadband and the front socket is automatically filtered for your Sky boxes etc, so with the cabling you are planning it would make tidy job.
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 7:51 PM
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8mb might be slow to you, but I'd be delighted to get 8mb or so. Right now I can't even open a web site if it's got a lot of photos without having to keep clicking on "try again" because I get timed out before it's loaded.
Here's the stats before I started this thread, hope you can see them, I only did a screen shot, which I've attached (I hope).
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
27-01-2015 10:05 PM
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You might need assistance from PN staff to get the various systems updated to allow you to use the new speed.
If no-one picks up here raise a ticket and explain how there was a wiring problem that has been resolved and speeds have increased from 512kb to 8mb.
Put a link to this thread in the ticket as they might be a bit sceptical............
Re: Can Someone Tell Me the Best Way to Connect the Router with Extension?
28-01-2015 12:00 AM
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Thanks to everyone else as well, especially MisterW. You've all been very helpful and patient.
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