21CN Enablement

[#1]

My local Exchange has brought forward the date for 21CN from 1st Quarter 2010 to 18 Nov. 2008. A very pleasant surprise to have received this message from BT yesterday. I am sure that PlusNet will give us all the advantage of a higher speed as soon as possible.

[#2]

Already another thread here http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,62752.msg507162.html#msg507162

[#3]

pierre, these threads were merged yesterday and your link points to this thread.

[#4]

How do the per port wholesale costs of the wbc service compare to Max ports?
I'd like to go wbc (exchange enablement august '08) but as it's only going to gain me around 500Kbps I'm not too keen on paying 24Mbs prices for it....
Will there be a queue for people wanting to converting over?
Can I be near the front this time
[Moderator's note by Peter (PJ): Please try to use at least a degree of restraint with smileys, as per the link:rules]

[#5]

Not with all those smilies

[#6]

Hmm, Pudsey appears to be 30 April 2008 now..
Mwuah ha ha haa....
/James wins.

[#7]

What does this mean for current ADSLmax customers. Will those lucky enough to get speeds over 3-4Mbps get speeds of up to 4 times faster, and what effect will it have for those whose speeds are limited by line length (500kbps).
What is the difference between 21CN WBC and PSTN?

[#8]

It won't make a huge different for most of us from what I've heard.
I get somewhere between 1.5 and 2.5 at home (depending upon the weather), and I won't get much more on 21CN.
However, I get almost the full 8 at work with an 8128 sync, so I should see a large uplift in speed there.

[#9]

Is there a source anywhere that relates 21CN speeds (supposed, best guess etc) with upto-8Mbit speeds, in terms of things like current speed or attenuation or distance from exchange etc.
AFAIK It's a non-linear relationship?

[#10]

Yeah, it's exponential.
http://www.dslzoneuk.net/maxspeed2.php

[#11]

Wahoo 18th of November for Chester North. Won't see any faster speeds downstream but will finally get better upload speeds. Might be able to continue playing games now while others are on the webcom 

[#12]

Kingswood Bristol has been brought forward to 30 April,originally 2010.

[#13]

Would anyone know if the fact that my nearest main town (newbury) is on the CN21 list,
do those of us on subsidiary excahnges off it ie with same prefix, are any
more likely to get it on our small exchages.
Some time after I'd presume.

[#14]

look at http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange.php?ecode=LWMIL and put your exchange
in on the LH side - Availability - Exchange search
gives this Exchange history  RSS Updates
31/03/2008 Be Unlimited has enabled the Newbury exchange for their service
29/03/2008 BT Wholesale has set an enablement date of 18/02/2009 for their 21CN Wholesale Broadband Connect product at the Newbury exchange
05/03/2008 Be Unlimited has set an enablement date of 30/04/2008 for the Newbury exchange
01/02/2007 Be Unlimited is no longer reporting an enablement date for the Newbury exchange
19/10/2006 BT have set a target date of Q2 2009 for the switch to 21CN for the Newbury exchange
03/08/2006 Be Unlimited has set an enablement date of 30/06/2007 for the Newbury exchange

[#15]

The latest news on the 21CN WBC rollout can be found at http://www.samknows.com/broadband/
I notice that my exchange was enabled for 21CN WBC on 28th March 2008 but that the 21CN PSTN switchover target is Q3 2009. 
If for example PlusNet offered an ADSL2+ service, would both of the above have to be implemented for ADSL2+ to operate over a given line or is only the 21CN WBC element required?