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Hi - any advice gratefully received, and given, if I can reciprocate.

Quick summary... I've had a non-profit (self-paid) Village Website for 8 years now with PlusNet. It is VERY large and everyday I upload approx 10 image files (approx 60kb each) + text. Recently, once a week or so, the PlusNet Abuse Team (what an unfriendly term?) are "archiving" my website because I OVERUSE BANDWIDTH BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. 24 hours later they kindly reinstate me!

I know the answer is to move up to a Business account which they tell me will be approx £40 inc VAT pm but before I spend more money I would like to consider other options.
It wasn't until recently that I realised that visitor traffic affects MY usage ... how on earth (literally) can I affect how many surfers are dialling in?

Has anyone else experienced this dilemma?
If you'd like further details, let me know but I don't want to make a nuisance of myself as a new forum member.
V Martin

Moderators note by John (johnessex) Large font reduced to a readable size.
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Hi findon

Please do not shout on these forums, you will be heard just as well if you choose a smaller font.

Chilly
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Very productive reply Chilly.



In response to the thread. I think you havee to realise that nowadays everything seems to be bandwith managed. Now you ask how can you affect how many people visit your website, well you are indirectly and i personally hav'nt read the small print but it seems that websites have a bandwith policy from what you have said.
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PlusNet gives 250MB* per day usage allowance on their web page servers, which is quite generous.

* depending on account type.

This equates to 7.5GB per month.

Perhaps it may be an idea to look of a web hosting company, that can supply a usage plan that matches your requirements, at a cost which is cheaper then moving to a PlusNet business plan.
Also they tend to measure bandwidth over the month rather than daily as PlusNet do.

I am sure someone will come up with some recommended hosts.

As you site is popular, it may be worth you considering sponsorship, to recover the hosting costs. A few pounds from targeted advertisements, will go a long way to paying additional hosting costs, but if keep within keeping to the site will not distract from the content.

Another thing worth trying would be to reduce the picture file sizes that you have on your site. This can be done in a number of ways. Reducing the size is the obvious one, but you can also reduce the quality of JPEG pictures which will also reduce the file size.
Also consider using thumbnails, where the viewer can choose to view the larger version is they wish.

Chilly
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Very productive reply Chilly.


Thank you brookfield, I was viewing Valerie's site to get a better idea as to why she was exceeding her bandwidth.

Chilly
Isitme
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Hi findon

Please do not shout on these forums, you will be heard just as well if you choose a smaller font.

Chilly


I did not realize that using a large font was 'shouting',only using full caps.However, have you considered that the poster may be visually impaired?
holdtight
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Hi Valerie

Theres no doubt having looked through your site that its getting too large for the plusnet free webspace and if your getting many of your locals browsing this is the problem

Chillys idea of seperate hosting would be the best way forward for you and there are plenty to choose from such as 1&1 or 123-reg to name a couple of good well known ones

Or you can google "web hosting" and see a multidude of options just be carefull and make sure you research the companies reputation for customer support and that you choose the right package that suits you


Bill.
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Using "1&1 Home" as an example.
This will give you 1.5G of web space and 20G per month traffic. (That over 2.5 times PlusNet's allowance.) For £5.86 per month.

So if you could get just 7 local business to pay £10 for a banner advert for 12 months, then your costs would be neutral.

Chilly
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I did not realize that using a large font was 'shouting',only using full caps.However, have you considered that the poster may be visually impaired?


If they are then unless we all shout back they are going to have dificulty reading it.

However I doubt that someone who is visualy impared would be able to easily manage to produce a website so large that is exceeding the limitations set by Plusnet.
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If they are then unless we all shout back they are going to have dificulty reading it.

Fell off chair! :lol:


A friend of mine has been using 1&1 and says they have been a very good host.
Walrus
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First things first, what a gem of a site you have there! I lived in Brighton for many years and often visited Arundel, Lewes, Worthing and others.... however never spotting Findon on my travels. I may just be tempted to have a look around firsthand next time I'm down visiting friends Smiley

I'm interested to know whether the bandwidth usage by the site was a 'one-off' or is something that is becoming a growing problem due to popularity of the site?

One thing you could possiblity check is in 'Website Settings'->'Advanced Webstats' in particular the statistic for "Top X of Y Total URLs By KBytes". This will help identify which particular part of the site is consuming the most bandwidth, it is possible you have an 'oversized' picture (although all that I inspected looked to be a reasonable size).

If you do find yourself at the limit of what PlusNet are able to host on your current package, as others have suggested I would look towards independent hosting, which is far more economical than 'upgrading' your PlusNet account. In this scenario, you would keep your PlusNet account as is, and transfer your domain and site to a specialist hosting company.

I concur with Chilly on the idea of using a popular site for some unobtrusive advertising. It is nice to be able to recoup some if not all of the costs of your site/ISP. I'd certainly recommend looking at Amazon Associates, with which you can advertise books related to the material on your site. You get around 4% for every book purchased as a link from your site, which builds up quite nicely.

Feel free to ask for any specific advice whichever path you choose to take.
Regards
Richard.
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If they are then unless we all shout back they are going to have dificulty reading it.


Very droll Smiley So using a large font is considered 'shouting' on this forum :?:
GersFans
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I agree with whats been said so far, nice site and yes you would benefit by moving to a dedicated web host.

I use Servage and have been for 2 years, never had any problems and customer support has always been first class.

Feel free to use my customer code (CUST14939) if you do sign up with them, this will get you an extra 25gb a month on your storage allowance. [I get no monetary benefit if you use that code, just an increase in allowance the same as you.] Cheesy