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Wireless expansion to Binatone ADSL 2000

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Wireless expansion to Binatone ADSL 2000

I have the Binatone ADSL 2000. I've had lots of sync problems with this until I upgraded the firmware mid week. Works like a dream now. Syncs in 10 secs.
How do I expand this modem/router to give wireless access and extra cabled connections. What hardware works with this modem as I know there seems to be issues with some combinations. What is the difference between a switch, hub and router?
I know that Binatone made a wireless access point but this doesn't expand the cabled ports as far as I know.
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Wireless expansion to Binatone ADSL 2000

The Binatone is a Router, a device that connects two
networks together ,ie. your private LAN to the WAN (internet).
It has the ability to process and forward packets,
it can perform NAT translation, filter and dynamically route packets.
Hubs and switches are simply used to connect equipment
together.
A hub simply passes (repeats) all the information it receives
through all its ports.
A switch is more advanced, it has the ability to control the flow of
traffic received based on address information of each packet.
It can forward the correct information to each individual device ,
on each port hence improving bandwidth efficiency.
If you are able to get a Binatone wireless access point (WAP),
then you'll need to get a switch, eg. a four (or more) port one to connect to. These are quite cheap.
Alternatively you can purchase a wireless router, ( without a modem),
this can have four ethernet ports (or more) and a WAP,combined.
There are different ways of connecting two routers together,
most of the time they will autosense each other , router - router.
If there is an uplink port you can use this and either configure
the Wireless router to act as a basic switch / WAP and use
the router / modem part of your Binatone. Alternatively use the
new wireless routers DHCP and firewall features and configure
the Binatone to act more or less as a 'modem'.
I can only comment generally as I don't know the set - up of
the Binatone but it should work with either a WAP or router.
I would double check the data before purchase for compatability.
Most (not all) reputable outlets will have details of the products they sell.
It would also depend on your budget, you can get a good
wireless 'b' (11Mbps+) router very cheaply and the price goes up
for wireless 'g' (54Mbps+) products.
If you can stretch the budget look at getting an all in one unit,
such as Netgear's DG834G and perhaps selling the Binatone.
Link first four items, wireless routers both 'b' & 'g'.
Next, DG834G onwards are all in one units,(except DI 624).
Alec.
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Wireless expansion to Binatone ADSL 2000

Many thanks for info Alec. I would probably have bought the Binatone ADSL 2100 which includes 4 Ethernet ports if I known back in December (or preferably a bigger network name) but I was a lot greener then and too eager to get connected before the Christmas shut down!
Due to firmware issues with this modem I have only just got it to sync reliably. I've had a nightmare sorting this out but that's another long, long boring story.
The Binatone is connected to my PC (6 yrs+ old now and still going strong touch wood!) via USB. It has 1 Ethernet port to which my son currently has a PS2 connected. I would presumably need to install a NIC, connect the WAP/router to that and the Binatone to that as a modem? If thats OK I could do the hardware no problem but the config might be more difficult. I'm also worried about buying something that won't work with the Binatone. I've read some stuff on ADSLGuide regarding incompatability and having only just got a stable connection I not in too much of a hurry to start all over again! Binatone do make a WAP but I don't think it includes router ports.
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Wireless expansion to Binatone ADSL 2000

If you stick to Binatone there shouldn't be any
compatibility worries, you could use the Binatone WAP
with a switch as detailed here.
The range doesn't appear to be great according to the reviews.
You would connect both the WAP and your existing modem to
the switch via ethernet and also connect the PS2 and any other
pc to the switch, or via wireless.
If that doesn't meet your requirements and you want something
different such as a router then you are totally correct in how
you would set it up and the anticipated problems that you
may encounter.
As I understand it it's one of those combined USB & ethernet
units ,so it operates in some sort of bridge mode.
So if you bought a router you could try connecting it straight
to the new routers WAN port.
In order to recognise the Binatones 'Public' interface the
two units will need to have firmware designed to work
together. Otherwise you could try to use a 'private' IP for the
Binatone. You may need to disable the bridge mode
and operate the unit in router mode.
The other way is direct connection to the routers ethernet or uplink
ports. It's a matter of trying a few set ups, but I don't
see why it shouldn't work. If however you've read about
problems, then perhaps you need to hear from some existing Binatone
users for recommendations of successful combinations.
( probably why you posted anyway Smiley )
The other issue is one of stability, you need pretty stable
hardware to get a successful wireless network going.
Regards.
Alec
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Wireless expansion to Binatone ADSL 2000

There was arecent thread on PS2 with routers recently, if its of any interest:
http://portal.plus.net/central/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13666&highlight=ps2
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Wireless expansion to Binatone ADSL 2000

Many thanks Alec and cqg4uzg.
I was adamant that the Binatone was going until I manage to sort it out with a firmware flash at weekend. As it stands it's running fine so the immediate urgency has left me. I'm going to give all this a lot more thought. Cash isn't an issue as long as I sort it out properly so I may go for a combined Modem/router/54g and make life easy. There are a few on the market now as you probably know.
Thanks for help to-date.
Paul