cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

What is Peer to Peer?

N/A

What is Peer to Peer?

I am a new customer to PlusNet, recently left Sky Broadband (some of you guys here think you get poor service.......). In checking my useage I noticed that huge amount (more than half) is due to peer to peer, but I have no idea what that is. I haven't been file-sharing or gaming, just surfing and emailing. I have downloaded a couple of game demos via 3Dgamers.com, could this be it? Grateful for any help / insight.
12 REPLIES
N/A

What is Peer to Peer?

Peer to Peer (or P2P) is essentially a networking model where two computers connect directly to each other in order to share services or files, as opposed to connecting to a server for this purpose. Essentially, if I wanted to share a file with you I'd have one of two options-
1. Upload this file to some kind of server where you would be able to access it and download it to your account (this applies to e-mail and every website you visit).
2. Form a direct connection between our computers using peer to peer software, meaning that each of our computers became both a client for traffic from the other computer and a server for traffic flowing the other way.
The latter model is useful because it reduces bottlenecks where significant numbers of users are trying to access files from the same server. Distributing files also increases robustness by removing a single point of failure. Usually peer to peer networks break down transfers into a number of segments, meaning you can then upload a segment that you've already completed to another user, whilst you're simultaniously downloading the rest of the file (potentially from multiple sources). As you can imagine this is extremely efficient.

Having given you that extremely simplistic overview of P2P, it seems unlikely that any of the use you describe would be classed as such. In general, P2P requires you to download software to your machine in order that it can act as a "server" for other computers to connect to. Check that you have a firewall enabled (if the Broadband Firewall bundled with PlusNet is set to "High" P2P cannot function as it won't allow unrequested traffic to reach your machine) and that you've encrypted any WiFi networks you use- ideally with WPA rather than the hopelessly cracked WEP. Might also be worth running a full virus and spyware scan to see if anything has installed itself and is using your computer as a "node" without your permission.
BenG
Grafter
Posts: 202
Registered: 22-08-2007

What is Peer to Peer?

it maybe caused if your using any chat program or if for example you download updates for Virus killers and other back ground traffic that you may having.

I know on my usage it says the same thing though I never use it. I not get too worried about it unless it really using a lot of your usage. In that case you I would suggest checking your computer for virus or spy ware.

Spybot - Search & Destroy is a good little program for getting rid of that.

Also AVG give a free virus killer. You can find the links in Google.

Also if you have a router I know in more you can check for attached that may be using your connection without your consent.

Hope that helps a little
N/A

What is Peer to Peer?

Great help, thanks both of you. I appreciate it.
N/A

What is Peer to Peer?

Are you perhaps using one of those TV apps to watch football for free?
Several of them are P2P based, and you can use a lot of bandwidth in the course of a match.
N/A

What is Peer to Peer?

Hi. No, I'm a very boring internet user - just basic surfing, emailing and the odd game download. Sometimes I'll play online games but haven't done that since I joined PlusNet.

I do have a firewall and anti-virus installed, F-Secure, but haven't used WPA on the wireless network - maybe my neighbour is using up all my bandwidth!
Isitme
Grafter
Posts: 112
Registered: 30-07-2007

What is Peer to Peer?

Quote
maybe my neighbour is using up all my bandwidth!


Quite likely! It may even be someone parked in a car near your home with a 'wireless' laptop! With the upturn in the use of wireless modems this has become a lot more common than people realize. You may not mind them using a few MBs of your bandwith, but consider this, they may be making illegal downloads. I am sure you will not be too happy if the police knock at your door one day and accuse you of downloading kiddy porn or illegal music. You should take wireless security very seriously as it can have dire consequences.

On another forum I visit one member was amazed to find that 'hotspots' had to be paid for and if you found one you could use free, you were almost certainly stealing from someone else. He thought he just had to drive around town till his laptop connected and he was home free :shock:
N/A

What is Peer to Peer?

Good points, well made Tom. Thanks and I'm now secure. Will be interesting to see if it makes a difference to the p2p scores.

Sorry neighbours :lol:
Community Veteran
Posts: 13,885
Thanks: 506
Fixes: 6
Registered: 01-08-2007

What is Peer to Peer?

Peer to Peer is impossible on this ISP - Thats what it is.
I need a new signature... i'm bored of the old one!
Community Veteran
Posts: 1,886
Registered: 05-04-2007

What is Peer to Peer?

@ lesstones - Excellent post, nicely put, even for me to understand Wink

Bish, welcome to the Funny Farm.. err, I mean forums!, make yourself at home, you'll find that the lunatics are running the asylum and then the mods and the comms team come along and give us our shots to keep us quiet!!! Wink

@ okrzynska - you should know better by now, tut tut - We know you're not happy, but you should know that you should try and keep the posting constructive old chap, it's just simply not cricket.
Community Veteran
Posts: 13,885
Thanks: 506
Fixes: 6
Registered: 01-08-2007

What is Peer to Peer?

hello roger Wink

Well without meaning to bash PN too much, you can't really deny it's true m8!

I must confess though my http speeds are normally decent and I don't suffer any disconnections which others are having trouble with. I just wish the friggin p2p restrictions would be lifted - after all, http traffic is simply a call to a webserver for a few hundred lines of ascii text and associated images (normally only a few Kb) which in reality doesn't put a heavy load on the PN network. So, bearing that in mind, http traffic doesn't actually need to be prioritised as gold traffic does it! (Remember you'll only get the page as fast as the http server can supply it anyway).

Regards
I need a new signature... i'm bored of the old one!
GersFans
Grafter
Posts: 191
Registered: 30-07-2007

What is Peer to Peer?

Quote
Sometimes I'll play online games but haven't done that since I joined PlusNet.


Soooo many places I could go with this, instead I'll just point you to the help/rant area for future reference... Wink

http://portal.plus.net/central/forums/viewforum.php?f=8
Community Veteran
Posts: 1,886
Registered: 05-04-2007

What is Peer to Peer?

@ okrzynska

I know where you're coming from about many things, especially the p2p side of it, although I admit I don't do it any more after being bitten by a nasty trojan (More fool me for allowing a program unmonitored port connection!) and I'm BB+ so it's not in the product design - Personally speaking I don't think I would be able to live with a 10k sloth-like download either!

Anyway, back to the matter in hand - glad things are looking up on the main stuff, I remember you really had a tough time of things of late with that rather dodgy connection, and I know you're frustrated with the p2p side of things, but it seems to be the way of many of the major ISP's, they are either using the hellacoya method or just booting heavy p2pers off, or increasing the prices - newnet (which is my local ISP) recently increased their charges cause of the p2p situation which saw a bit of a exodus....

Anyway, I digress (and run the risk of getting a slap for going o/t)

I do wish that something could be done asides going to PAYG to get what you want, maybe the upcoming product refreshes might have something in mind, but I think p2p will be way down the bottom of the list - BTW still gets way too much money for shifting data, and are years behind other countries like Japan in terms of data infrastructures.. we should be up with them.. not years behind!