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02-11-2010 9:53 AM
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this is my first post hope this is the right place. i have been having speed issues for a long time now. i understand because of the length of my line i am not going to get mega fast broadband (max probably 1meg :-[) but what im getting a lot of the time is completely unusable. i raised a fault ticket last week due to this problem was told the usual i,e btw are investigating etc but i did see a HUGE improvement in line profile speed, twice as fast as what i have been getting. Now low and behold it has fallen back again. i have checked the update of the fault and i it says it is waiting for a vp upgrade in the exchange. would this really affect my profile speeds? because as i see it a vp upgrade would only help a stable connection at peak times yet my speed problems are constant. also would it help my speeds if i went on max pro? confused.com
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 9:58 AM
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So that we can see the extent of the problem can you post the stats from your router - noise margin, attenuation and speeds - also the latest IP profile (the Plusnet mirror would be as good at this stage https://portal.plus.net/my.html?action=data_transfer_speed)
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 9:59 AM
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Can you post your router stats (sync speed, attenuation and noise margin) please. Also a description of your setup (is your router in the master or an extension, are other extensions in use etc.) would help.
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 10:50 AM
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ticket number: 36360960
oldjim this is the info from the link you gave:
Telephone number:
<removed>
Phone exchange:
BANGOR
Estimated line speed:
1.0 - Checked on 2010-07-13 12:56:11
Current line speed:
500
this is the latest info on the ticket regarding noise etc
Upstream Link Info
Loop Loss Loop Loss Add Text SNR Margin Errored Seconds HecErrors Cell Count Speed
46.5 9.6 1 0 590516 192
Downstream Link Info
Loop Loss Loop Loss Add Text SNR Margin ErroredSeconds HecErrors CellCount Speed
63.5 7 1 0 2297477 576
DSL Max Data
BIP Interface Data
Current line rate Line rate change timestamp Maximum Stable Rate Recalcuated ProfileTimestamp Maximum Stable Rate
500 2010-10-26T08:37:04 N 2010-10-01T00:00:00 576
Fault Threshold Rate Interleaving Flag ServiceOption ServiceOption Status ServiceOption Update Timestamp
576 A 1 UNABLE TO REACH THE CHOSEN SERVICE OPTION BUT WILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION UNDER DLM CONTROL (ILQ=R) 2010-10-01T01:10:14
and here is the result of a speed test just run on the bt speedtester:
Download speedachieved during the test was - 226 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 50-250 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :512 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 224 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 250 Kbps
my router is connected to the master socket, which is the only socket in the house. nothing else is plugged into it not even the house phone as the connection is unstable when anything else is plugged in although that was meant to of been sorted out on the last engineer visit.
any help would be much appreciated. jojo?
thanks
jim:green telephone number removed mod:end
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 10:58 AM
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46.5 9.6 1 0 590516 192 9.6 1 0 590516 192
Downstream Link Info
Loop Loss Loop Loss Add Text SNR Margin ErroredSeconds HecErrors CellCount Speed
63.5 7 1 0 2297477 576 1 0 2297477 576
BIP Interface Data
Current line rate Line rate change timestamp Maximum Stable Rate Recalcuated ProfileTimestamp Maximum Stable Rate
500 2010-10-26T08:37:04 N 2010-10-01T00:00:00 576 n 2010-10-01T00:00:00 576
Fault Threshold Rate Interleaving Flag ServiceOption ServiceOption Status ServiceOption Update Timestamp
576 A 1 UNABLE TO REACH THE CHOSEN SERVICE OPTION BUT WILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION UNDER DLM CONTROL (ILQ=R) 2010-10-01T01:10:14
sorry just realised not all the info showed up. hope this is all of it
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 11:01 AM
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Quote from: bangorcity my router is connected to the master socket, which is the only socket in the house. nothing else is plugged into it not even the house phone as the connection is unstable when anything else is plugged in although that was meant to of been sorted out on the last engineer visit.
This isn't good. Have you tried a different filter and router to confirm whether it is the line or the equipment?
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 11:03 AM
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Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 11:50 AM
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Quote from: jelv With the telephone ONLY (no filter or router) plugged in, what is the quality of the phone line like? Is there any background noise? (If you dial 17070 and take the option 2 quiet line test it gives you a clear line for you to listen, there should be no noise).
This isn't good. Have you tried a different filter and router to confirm whether it is the line or the equipment?
hi
i tried the line test its quiet no crackling, background noise or anything. also i have a bt faceplate fitted so dont normaly use a filter but when i removed the plate to plug into the master socket i tried 2 different microfilters and another router all with the phone plugged in and still had the same problem.
here are the results of the router stats=
Link Information
Uptime: 0 days, 1:19:25
DSL Type: G.992.1 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 224 / 512
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 0.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 14.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 31.5 / 63.5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 7.0 / 7.5
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / TSTC
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 190 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 17 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 28 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 307
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 12:10 PM
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The bit I don't understand is
but I assume it means that the router was unable to sync at 512kbps at one time so the line was restricted even further
Quote Fault Threshold Rate Interleaving Flag ServiceOption ServiceOption Status ServiceOption Update Timestamp
576 A 1 UNABLE TO REACH THE CHOSEN SERVICE OPTION BUT WILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION UNDER DLM CONTROL (ILQ=R) 2010-10-01T01:10:14
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 12:13 PM
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What you need to do is to compare the router stats to see if they show any improvement, if they do you will only see improved speeds when the BT systems update which will probably be two or three days.
A word of warning: while you are trying things out leave at least an hour between each time you unplug things to swap bits about. Too many disconnections in a short space of time and the BT system will set yout IP Profile to 135
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 12:14 PM
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I thought the BT speed test didn't show the Ip profile for people on a fixed rate product?
Also shouldn't the upload be 384?
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Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 12:19 PM
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sorry when i said that ''still having the same problems'' i didnt mean now i meant when i tried it. i have not fiddled about with anything since raising the fault because i was worried about the line profile dropping, which has happened anyway.
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 12:20 PM
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Upstream Rate (Kbps) 288
Downstream Rate (Kbps) 576
but neither is being reached
I suppose it could be DSLMax with both being heavily restrictred but that doesn't explain the fault report which refers to 576kbps as the chosen service option
Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 12:24 PM
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On the fixed rate products it either synced at the set speed or it didn't sync at all. He's definitely on Max or 21CN configured for ADSL1.
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Re: speed problems! helpppppp
02-11-2010 12:57 PM
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Just to clear something up here. You are on max on 20CN. I would certainly expect to see a better sync rate than the one I saw when I checked it just now which was 512k. When you said you tried 2 filters and a different router you would have seen no difference as the DLM won't change immediately. What you would have had to check is whether the sync rate increased. Your fault ticket says that some work to is being carried out by BT and we are hoping to have an update on the 4th, so there's not much we can do until then unfortunately.
Jojo
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