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news.metronet.co.uk
09-04-2008 1:23 PM
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If anything can be done it would be very much appreciated.
Regards
Howard
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
09-04-2008 1:30 PM
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I think the Metronet news server is in the lower priority traffic queues due to the fact that it carries binaries. Can you connect to news.plus.net?
I'd be interested to see if you still have problems with that.
Bob Pullen
Plusnet Product Team
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Re: news.metronet.co.uk
09-04-2008 2:31 PM
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Anyway, having said all that, news.metronet.co.uk is fine at this moment, but it will become unusable again sometime today.
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Howard
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
09-04-2008 2:51 PM
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Configuration:
Account: news.metronet.co.uk
Server: news.metronet.co.uk
Protocol: NNTP
Port: 119
Secure(SSL): 0
Code: 80004005
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
09-04-2008 5:21 PM
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I'll have a word with our products team and see what they think.
Bob Pullen
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Re: news.metronet.co.uk
09-04-2008 6:40 PM
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Regards
Howard
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
15-04-2008 9:15 PM
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Please give the text users priority. Binaries MUST come second in priority as they are not time sensitive. Finding out info and getting replies IS.
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Howard
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
16-04-2008 11:40 AM
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I did ask about increasing the priority of the Metronet news feed but the consensus was against doing this I'm afraid.
As you only use the servers for text access have you contemplated using a free text-only server like Motzarella? Ttaffic to that server would be in the gold queues.
Failing that, I might be able to have your IP address moved across to the PlusNet Giganews account (assuming it's static). In doing this though, you would lose access to news.metronet.co.uk and the rate-limited binary feed.
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Re: news.metronet.co.uk
16-04-2008 4:06 PM
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16-04-2008 6:07 PM
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No Be3G, I wouldn't expect it to be that slow, but we are talking single feed, low priority traffic and we're close to the lighting of another segment.
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Re: news.metronet.co.uk
17-04-2008 8:13 PM
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Bob, I do very much appreciate you trying to get them to increase the priority for text users (which should be the same as for email), but seems they do not appreciate the problem of the incredibly tiny amount of data that is needed for text based news.
I am not convinced its actually to do with allocation or prioity as news.metronet.co.uk appears to suddenly stop for no good reason and not at peak times. I think its got a fault, but who am I?
Thanks for trying anyway.
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Howard
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
18-04-2008 8:40 AM
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Quote from: rockradio Bob, I do very much appreciate you trying to get them to increase the priority for text users (which should be the same as for email), but seems they do not appreciate the problem of the incredibly tiny amount of data that is needed for text based news.
Howard, I think you're misunderstanding what I've said. Binary and text traffic from news.metronet.co.uk are prioritised in exactly the same way. When downloading binaries though, the chances are that you're doing so using more than one thread which can improve speeds. The profiling we apply is based on port and IP address. As this is the same regardless of what you're downloading then there's no way of differentiating between text and binaries. We either prioritise it all, or prioritise none of it.
This is why I suggested you sign up for a text-only news service or consider my offer to look at giving you access to news.plus.net. These services are all prioritised.
I've no reason to believe that there's any service wide issues with the Metronet news server. If you suspect there is then I'd raise a ticket containing a wireshark capture and we can take it from there.
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Re: news.metronet.co.uk
18-04-2008 9:13 PM
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Just a thought, but if there was some way to separate binary and text use of the servers, it would overcome this problem of binary use making reading text messages slow. Perhaps blocking the binary groups on the text server. Then the same priority as email could be given to the text news server and it would be possible to read and reply to messages in near real time as with email. I'd suggest that text based news uses far less bandwidth than email as its all plain text, when email is almost always html and often with images and attachments and of course there is a lot more email traffic than text news use. Thanks for all your help.
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
02-06-2008 5:49 PM
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When the news groups gets like this I have been resorting to using a dialup connection and then the news server downloads perfectly ok with no delays. Surely this can only mean a problem with Metronet and probably port thottling.
I'd appreciate it if someone could look into allowing proper access to news servers via Metronet.
Regards
Rockradio
Re: news.metronet.co.uk
05-06-2008 1:28 PM
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Metronet outsource their news service to Giganews anyway. The only difference between the service you're getting at the moment and Metronet's service is the fact that we rate-limit traffic to 2 x 128kbps feeds. You'd not notice this if you're only using the service for text though.
Text-only services have priority on our network so you may well be better going with one of these. news.individual.net tends to come quite highly recommended.
Did you try Motzarella as that's free?
I can see if I can get you access to the PlusNet text server if you'd like?
Bob Pullen
Plusnet Product Team
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