more realistic usage limits?
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Quote from: notheruser YouTube and MySpace - enough said!
yeah, fancy actually wanting to USE the internet
Last time I looked, there was a lot more to the internet than just YouTube and MySpace!
My point was, if you're wondering where all your bandwidth usage is going, look no further than these sites. Read my earlier post about our work experience of them. They, and a few other sites, account for a very high proportion of bandwidth usage.
you're right, there is a lot more to the internet than just YouTube and MySpace - but they are part of it
I don't dispute that those sites account for a very high proportion of bandwidth usage, my problem, and the reason for this thread, is that they (and others like them) are part of the "normal use internet" now, I can understand an ISP moaning about high P2P use, which is why I don't do it, I don't do gaming, VOIP, SkyPE, UseNet, FTP, etc a whole lot either
Over the last 6ish years Plus.net have variously been one of the very best ISPs and one of the lowest on the list too, but in all that time they have never restricted me for normal everyday web usage
I am having to ask my kids not to use the sites that all their mates are, when I explain they instantly ask me "can we change to another ISP then?" - "my mate is with AOL(
), they never moan at him" - I don't WANT to even think about it, but I'm starting to wonder what choice I have - I really could understand it if we were torrenting films and music all day long, but this is just standard web browsing.
I know plus.net won't care if I go, but I feel that I'm loosing something, the only other time I have considered leaving was in the brief period between the announcement that everyone was going to be moved to Tiscali LLU & the decision to allow an 'opt-out'
I am tied here untill October as I (foolishly) took up an offer last Oct (assuming, since things had been ok for 5 years I'd be happy for another 12 months) but I will be using that time to look at other providers with products more suited to my usage .. ie a family of 5 surfing the net
I don't dispute that those sites account for a very high proportion of bandwidth usage, my problem, and the reason for this thread, is that they (and others like them) are part of the "normal use internet" now, I can understand an ISP moaning about high P2P use, which is why I don't do it, I don't do gaming, VOIP, SkyPE, UseNet, FTP, etc a whole lot either
Over the last 6ish years Plus.net have variously been one of the very best ISPs and one of the lowest on the list too, but in all that time they have never restricted me for normal everyday web usage
I am having to ask my kids not to use the sites that all their mates are, when I explain they instantly ask me "can we change to another ISP then?" - "my mate is with AOL(
), they never moan at him" - I don't WANT to even think about it, but I'm starting to wonder what choice I have - I really could understand it if we were torrenting films and music all day long, but this is just standard web browsing.I know plus.net won't care if I go, but I feel that I'm loosing something, the only other time I have considered leaving was in the brief period between the announcement that everyone was going to be moved to Tiscali LLU & the decision to allow an 'opt-out'
I am tied here untill October as I (foolishly) took up an offer last Oct (assuming, since things had been ok for 5 years I'd be happy for another 12 months) but I will be using that time to look at other providers with products more suited to my usage .. ie a family of 5 surfing the net
Quote from: alanf For example, DU Meter is available for 30 days free trial (http://www.dumeter.com/) and is not expensive if you choose to buy.
DU Meter is very, very expensive compared to NetMeter which looks remarkably similar!
thanks everyone for suggestions
@pjmarsh: yikes, I didn't mean I'd move to AOL! just that was the comment, I'd only ever touch AOL if the only other option was Tiscali
@alanf: sure I mentioned it earlier, but 4 seperate PCs (well 2 are laptops) and not nearly enough disclipline to merge data from all 4 very often - router does seem to have some previosly unexplored areas though, thanks
@jelv: been using Netmeter since I saw it in another thread here, not sure it'll be much help though (see^)
@Kelly: I thik it's a fair bit of what you've seen and a lot of use of one particular website that I only found out about today (<a href="http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/ ">watchtvsitcoms</a>) - apparently my daughter and her BF have been streaming TV / films / etc night after night for hours on end - I'm blocking it at router level untill my next billing period then I'll restrict access to knwn times / duration - see how that goes
@plus.net: uh ... sorry
- while I do still see it as browsing (ish) I'm finding it hard to see much difference between torrenting a film and watching it via streaming, I'm even wondering if streaming uses more bandwidth than torrenting
anyone know/care to guess? from a bandwidth perspective, would a torrent of a 1.5 hour film use less BW than 1.5 hours watching it as a streamed video?
@pjmarsh: yikes, I didn't mean I'd move to AOL! just that was the comment, I'd only ever touch AOL if the only other option was Tiscali
@alanf: sure I mentioned it earlier, but 4 seperate PCs (well 2 are laptops) and not nearly enough disclipline to merge data from all 4 very often - router does seem to have some previosly unexplored areas though, thanks
@jelv: been using Netmeter since I saw it in another thread here, not sure it'll be much help though (see^)
@Kelly: I thik it's a fair bit of what you've seen and a lot of use of one particular website that I only found out about today (<a href="http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/ ">watchtvsitcoms</a>) - apparently my daughter and her BF have been streaming TV / films / etc night after night for hours on end - I'm blocking it at router level untill my next billing period then I'll restrict access to knwn times / duration - see how that goes
@plus.net: uh ... sorry
- while I do still see it as browsing (ish) I'm finding it hard to see much difference between torrenting a film and watching it via streaming, I'm even wondering if streaming uses more bandwidth than torrenting anyone know/care to guess? from a bandwidth perspective, would a torrent of a 1.5 hour film use less BW than 1.5 hours watching it as a streamed video?
Streaming is frequently at a small size and not particularly good quality so that it would work using around 1MB - certainly watching video off the BBC uses only a small fraction of my bandwidth. I'm guessing a torrent download will be higher resolution/better quality so, yes it would use a lot more bandwidth.
