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When BT installed the extensions ...
17-09-2012 10:42 PM
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17-09-2012 10:44 PM
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If it helped click the thumb
If it fixed it click 'This fixed my problem'
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17-09-2012 11:24 PM
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18-09-2012 8:33 AM
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One of the reasons that BT use to do the wiring for the extensions before the new style sockets was the phones and the wall sockets had to be modified and this was not something that the average householder was competent to do.
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18-09-2012 8:46 AM
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Quote from: itsme What you mean there is no 2 part master socket one of the extension will be a master socket and have the ring and protection circuitry
I did not realise that is what I meant! Is this circuitry easily recognisable if I remove the socker cover?
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18-09-2012 9:11 AM
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Extension
This http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/line_jacks.htm is a good reference for all sockets.
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18-09-2012 3:56 PM
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Quote from: itsme I would find which off the old sockets is the master socket and replace it with a 2 part master socket which are easily available.
I still dont think you can touch this socket, or any others that have been installed by BT, if its a very old setup. As far as I could see, these are still classed as the property of BT. I have had this at the inlaws, where they still have 2 BT supplied extensions, off a very old green box, on the window sill.
you can install an NTE5 as a direct extension from the older master socket, and then run all extensions from there, as per this guide on claritys site.. http://clarity.it/telecoms/nte5.htm
This is all in my humble opinion, and what I have read, and I may be incorrect...
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18-09-2012 4:35 PM
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Quote from: penfold I still dont think you can touch this socket, or any others that have been installed by BT, if its a very old setup. As far as I could see, these are still classed as the property of BT.
See where? In the particular instance I had in mind, I could not get BT to acknowledge any responsibility for them; at least not their broadband arm. The lady on the £90 per hour BT support line told me quite explicitly that I could fit a new master socket myself - not that I believe she really knew what she was talking about. If I could cite some online document that confirms what Penfold thinks that might be quite useful.
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18-09-2012 11:54 PM
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19-09-2012 8:22 AM
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Quote from: itsme You are not allowed to open up a single part master socket ...
Well everybody says this but nobody (yet) can cite the rules. So for the present I think this is an urban myth.
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19-09-2012 9:22 AM
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Quote from: ReedRichards I think this is an urban myth.
And I think you're probably wrong.......
Well I have some very old British Telecom information relating to "self-install" extension kits. These became legal on 1st December 1986 (it says - exact wording).
This makes it quite clear that you do not open up the sockets, you plug in the initial take-off, though after that they're your sockets and you can do what you like as long as you wire it as described.
Of course things may have changed since then.
The document I have PHME 2137/6/89 describes how to plug extension wiring into a (now old type) Master Socket and how to connect to the removable lower faceplate on a Linebox (NTE5).
It also illustrates a direct junction box (phone point) and says you need to PAY BT to convert that before doing anything.
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19-09-2012 10:26 AM
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Quote from: penfold
Quote from: itsme I would find which off the old sockets is the master socket and replace it with a 2 part master socket which are easily available.
As far as I could see,
Its just a way of speaking where I am from......
Anyhow, although I cannot find any actual (legal) evidence, I have been a googling, and there are a few posts originating from the BT community forums about this, and it appears nobody seems to know whats legal and whats not, with regards to replacing kit or master sockets on older setups like this.
Personally.. I would leave them alone, it all seems a bit smoke and mirrors..... If there is an actual fault, I would be surprised if the openreach guy didnt replace with an NTE socket as a matter of course....
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19-09-2012 10:36 AM
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1: You unplug their wire , and (in error) touch it main voltage
2: A BT guy working up the road receives an electric shock ... and a trip throws in the green box at the end of the road
... you bet , they take the trouble to track down where that came from !
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19-09-2012 11:19 AM
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19-09-2012 12:07 PM
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