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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 2:56 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 3:01 PM
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Well I assume you know to report the crackly line as a phone fault if/when you can catch it for long enough (and don't mention the broadband) but we'll await a pic before saying any more.
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 3:42 PM
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As for the crackly line, I was waiting for the broadband to be connected for a while before getting into those murky waters because I was sure I'd get the spiel about the line having to settle down first. Anyway, here's what's in my box. Does that seem right to you, connections inside the box but none attached to the faceplate and six wires?
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 4:47 PM
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jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 5:09 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 5:11 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 5:16 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 5:21 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 5:25 PM
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Quote from: jelv Another option is powerline adapters which means no trailing cable and you could move the PC to anywhere in the house.
What's that? I imagine it's something to do with utilising the power socket lines (surely it can't be, given the interference that apparently can happen to BB from power cables).
Edited to add, I just looked into these powerline adapters. I'm surprised that they are what I imagined. I absolutely love the idea of it. Alas, can't do it. I run my computer and all its attachments through an 8 gang surge protector, so no spare direct socket and I can't move my computer. Thanks for the suggestion though. Wish I could use it, I love it so much. Reminds me of how office intercoms worked years ago (don't know if they still do).
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 8:01 PM
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Like you I have little choice in where I can plug them (most rooms only having one or two sockets) and have been running 200Mbps ones on extension cables for some time.
Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 8:55 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
21-11-2012 11:11 PM
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Re: Turning my router off
22-11-2012 8:29 AM
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Worth asking though, this is the only telephone socket connected in the property is it?
The "issue with the bell-wire" normally arises with what ever the user has connected OR plugs in, on their side of the NTE5a.
Regular phone type extension leads, such as what it sounds as if you are using contain a bell wire!
As for in your room, there is little point in fitting a filtered faceplate if you are then going to have trailing extension leads all over the place. In any event when testing from a test socket, a filter should plug directly into the test socket and the modem/router direct into the filter with no extension leads otherwise you only recreate exactly what you had before. The only point in removing the faceplate is to isolate any internal hard wired extensions connected to it.
The only point of fitting a filtered faceplate is if you are going to have the modem/router or the phone right next to it, the latter to save a dangly filter and you then have proper hard wired unfiltered extension wiring for the modem/router.
The most obvious and neatest solution is to fit your own hard wired extension, you can use a filtered extension socket if you don't want a dangly filter at the extension, but performance wise, there is very little or no difference and added expense with a filtered socket. Fitting a standard hard wired extension using the correct cable will not give performance issues and is also the cheapest solution. You can then use the original very short modem/router cable (or if you really need a slightly longer one, get a twisted pair screened one),
For the extension you will need to buy some 2 pair CW1308 cable, some 3.5mm cable clips and a Disposable IDC tool from the tools page.
I wouldn't recommend buying the cable anywhere except from a reliable source, there is fake standard CW1308 about. You can get the standard extension socket itself at any DIY shed, local store etc. or even eBay, Amazon etc. A standard 86x86mm socket and mounting box should cost no more than £2-3, any more is a rip-off (watch for postage costs if buying online, some are a rip-off as well!).
When connecting the extension you only use the one pair, Blue+white trace on terminal 2 and White+blue trace on terminal 5.
Re: Turning my router off
22-11-2012 8:56 AM
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If they offered the better solution I would use them without question, indeed especially to cut out external cabling. It's academic for me though as I can't use them.
Quote from: jelv Difficult choice: the powerlines might degrade from 10 times as fast as your ADSL connection to only 5 times as fast - will that actually matter?
Quote from: Anotherone Let's clear up any misunderstanding about wiring - what you see feeding your NTE5a is exactly what you might expect to see where the drop-wire or underground feed terminates elsewhere in the building, and standard 3 pair CW1308 has been used from that NTP to your NTE5a. Your telephone line only consists of 1 connected pair.
Worth asking though, this is the only telephone socket connected in the property is it?
Good morning, and thank you for your continuing attention with this, and thank you for that, too. Good to know all is normal there. Yes, it's the only socket in the property, installed at build ten years ago.
Quote The "issue with the bell-wire" normally arises with what ever the user has connected OR plugs in, on their side of the NTE5a.
Regular phone type extension leads, such as what it sounds as if you are using contain a bell wire!
Ah, that's useful to know. Thanks for that, too.
Quote As for in your room, there is little point in fitting a filtered faceplate if you are then going to have trailing extension leads all over the place.
I was wanting to make use of my ADSL extension, which a BT man very kindly put together for me with my previous BE installation elsewhere when he came to replace the property to the cabinet cable. He made it for me after fitting an ADSL faceplate because the socket was in my hallway, well away from my computer. I can only assume it is the correct type of cabling you talk of later: CW1308. It and the box it is attached to looks identical to one featured here: BT engineers ADSL extension kit. Even if I were to choose to hard wire my current ADSL extension by snipping off the plug and fixing the wires inside, I'd still have to buy a faceplate suitable to take it (wire outlet). Unless I cut a hole at the bottom of my current faceplate myself.
Quote In any event when testing from a test socket, a filter should plug directly into the test socket and the modem/router direct into the filter with no extension leads otherwise you only recreate exactly what you had before.
Yes, I know, and that's how I ran the tests I did directly into the Master and Test sockets; with the filter only.
Either way, thanks for the link and further information. It is much appreciated.
Re: Turning my router off
22-11-2012 10:40 AM
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The standard faceplate should have a small slot in the bottom edge for extension cabling, but where are you plugging the phone in? If at the NTE5a and using a Filtered Plate and there isn't a slot, just file one - but the Filtered plate must have the unfiltered terminals if hard-wiring an ADSL extension. If you are going to plug the phone in at the NTE5a, why not just plug your ADSL extension kit into the filtered plate?
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