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SuperZoom
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

As per post 97, indeed.
But in your case, it sounds like your neighbours are generating negative congestion. That can happen sometimes if postprandial spectrum distortion in close proximity to one of the passive optical splitters causes disseminated feline vocalizations to be lunar phase shifted beyond the integral of the square root cubed of the total fibre length in furlongs. It provides a 6.258% boost while it lasts. Usually.
SuperZoom
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Things here are getting worse rather than better!
Other metrics are fine - ping, DNS - but browsing is as sluggish as sluggish, and throughput this morning at 09:50 was down to 31Mbps!!!
However, it looks as if BTw could be the culprits: a nearby property had a 220Mbps Infinity connection installed, which is only getting 20-30Mbps this morning as well.
Presumably, if it's getting that bad, BT must be aware, but can you possibly add PlusNet's voice and make sure they fix it for good, Kelly?
It's silly that the service is so variable and PlusNet gets the blame if it is actually your "suppliers" who aren't providing a very good supply.
Can we please get it sorted and let this thread die?!...
Kelly
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Get a fault raised if you haven't already and we'll get pushing it.  It really feels like there is something wrong on your line to me.
Kelly Dorset
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SuperZoom
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

OK, I'll go through the fault reporter, then, if that's what you need.
It isn't a problem with the line, though. It's an issue either with equipment in the exchange or the connection from there onwards, and is clearly affecting BT retail connections as well. None of that stuff is visible to me, however.
It doesn't seem to be specifically congestion-related, unless to the extent that temporary BTw routing changes have forced everything down one too-narrow pipe.
EDIT: Fault raised. Surprisingly enough, changing the microfilters didn't help    Wink
SuperZoom
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

OK, I've done what I was asked, including a BTw speedtest.
That showed much improved throughput, which is confirmed by TBB: 77 followed by 88 Mbps on cURL.
Maybe BT were in the process of unplugging stuff this morning and plugging it in elsewhere.
However logging in to the member centre just now took an age - had to stop and reload - and the forum login just timed out too.
Have I done enough jumping through hoops for you to follow up and resolve the long-term problem?
I only raised a fault to provide the necessary administrative framework for that.
dave
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

The Wireshark seems to make me think it's the same, added a graph to your ticket with what we see for your exchange.
Dave Tomlinson
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chrispurvey
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

I've raised a fault with our suppliers, I'll update you when we get the fault report back.
SuperZoom
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Thanks both. Much appreciated.
I've just replied to your ticket update, Dave. Thanks for the graph, it does look telling.
The forum just timed out again getting in here to reply...
I do hope it can all be fixed before it becomes quicker to ask ThinkBroadband to send me their download zip files by courier!    Smiley
AndyH
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Have you tried doing the BT Speed Tester TAP3 test (the further test when your speeds are below the minimum acceptable level)? It gives you the option to run the test and you have to login with a BT test username/password that they provide.
I think that test is suppose to bypass PN's network - so if you still get slow d/l speeds, you know it's not a PN problem.

dave
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

I think it only lets you run it if the speed is below a certain amount but when you do you have to login with a specific username that connects you in to the BT network. You can't access anything apart from the BT Speedtest but it does as you say check the speed between you and BT and rule us out of the equation.
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jelv
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Run the first test connected wirelessly to the router using 802.11b?
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AndyH
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Another way is to use your router QoS (if it has it) to set speed below the BT fault threshold.
w23
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Just use an old Intel Atom netbook!
Call me 'w23'
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SuperZoom
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

Love the impressively creative circumvention suggestions!  Smiley
PlusNet have very efficiently arranged for an Openreach engineer to come tomorrow morning. I doubt that will help in itself, but it is apparently necessary to progress things...
Some might be interested to take a look at the attached TCP stream summary, which is just the HTML of a web page being downloaded. Note that the delay before getting the 200 OK response may not be significant here - it isn't the interesting feature, and could easily be down to the server in this case (although other testing has suggested that that is a point in the transfer at which latency is highly variable when it is very unlikely to be the remote server causing the effect).
SuperZoom
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Re: Superzoom speed problem

The engineers visit was certainly 'interesting'...
A small Openreach error prior to the engineer's arrival (totally unrelated to the issue) led to a complete loss of internet connectivity for basically the whole of Saturday!
It should have been straightforward to recover from, but it seems the FTTP specialists at the BT engineering call centre don't work weekends, so the swtich-it-off-and-on-and-off-and-on-and-replace-all-the-equipment-even-if-there-is-no-indication-it-is-faulty method of troubleshooting applied to getting service restored. Comforting to know that Openreach engineers have to suffer that sort of thing themselves, I suppose. Four hours of being told to switch the router off an on again even though the log clearly said "Timeout waiting for PADO" is enough to drive a very patient engineer mad, I can tell you.
Anyway, as a result of all this, the ONT has now been swapped for a brand new one (unnecessarily in the sense that it wasn't faulty, it was just the easiest way to get a new serial number to build against) and the VLAN rebuilt entirely from scratch (multiple times!)
So we can definitively say that there is no fault whatsoever with the line. Not that there ever was. Except that latency has gone up by 1ms since the connection was restored. That's probably BTw fiddling around with something else, though. Not so long ago I was getting 3ms to the BBC. Then it went to 4ms. Now it's 5. Where does all the time go, hey?
I've got a little tidbit for you, though, Andy. The engineer was able to tell me that the optical loop loss for our fibre path is currently 14.14dB. Miles within budget and entirely irrelevant to the problem, but a juicy stat nonetheless    Cheesy
Throughput today is back up to 89.69Mbps and cached DNS lookups from PlusNet's servers 7.something ms - reflecting the increased base latency.
Not terribly revealing metrics re. www responsiveness, but may as well post it for the record. It's useful to be able to review how things develop.
Rumour has it that if BT need to add a bit of latency into the path for whatever reason, they are not above connecting up a few thousand metres of extra fibre in a corner of the exchange! So you never know what's really going on.