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Re: Speed Problems
03-01-2009 2:27 PM
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From previous comments from you, it appears that you have it off and then switch it on at about 1700 at night. that is A) the worst time of day and you are likely to collect a bad snc.
Re: Speed Problems
03-01-2009 4:38 PM
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Quote from: pierre_pierre if you are switching it on and off you are causing the problem. leave it on.
From previous comments from you, it appears that you have it off and then switch it on at about 1700 at night. that is A) the worst time of day and you are likely to collect a bad snc.
I have left it on for the last two weeks
Re: Speed Problems
04-01-2009 8:22 AM
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Your connection is obviously dropping but we are no closer to finding out why. If your details about your distance from the exchange are accurate then you have a rubbish connection or the stats are wrong. The one time that you posted any stats from a different router it did not include the SNRM figures, and you have not explicitly stated that you have tried another filter. If this is the same router and filter that you have been using since you were on a 1M connection, or even earlier, especially considering the change in stats when you did a firmware upgrade, then I'm not prepared to trust them unless they can be proven consistent with results from another router that has been used for several days.
You must (borrow and) try a known good router, preferably new(ish) and a known good filter - a decent quality one, poor/faulty filters can affect you connection speed because of bad matching to the line, and using another connection cable (doen't need to be an expensive screened one). You must also do this with a corded phone connected in place of the DECT one. We will need to see regular stats from this combination over several days, preferably with some from daytime and some from evening or any other times where the SNRM is changing. We are only interested in the ADSL stats at this time (as I think you know), that is Sync (connection) speed, Attenuation & Noise Margin (SNRM) both downstream and upstream.
In summary, from the information available, your line length is about 2.4Km, you seem to have an NTE5 master linebox with no hard wired extensions. Your stats were the same plugged into the master socket or the test socket (proving no problems with the faceplate connection). Unless you are using a long extension lead (possibly a 4 wire flat type) between the master socket and the filter, an i-plate is highly highly unlikely to be of any benefit and even in this situtaion its effects would be negated by use of a filter that doesn't meet the BT spec.
Re: Speed Problems
04-01-2009 8:53 PM
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Quote from: Anotherone
You must (borrow and) try a known good router, preferably new(ish) and a known good filter - a decent quality one, poor/faulty filters can affect you connection speed because of bad matching to the line, and using another connection cable (doen't need to be an expensive screened one). You must also do this with a corded phone connected in place of the DECT one. We will need to see regular stats from this combination over several days, preferably with some from daytime and some from evening or any other times where the SNRM is changing. We are only interested in the ADSL stats at this time (as I think you know), that is Sync (connection) speed, Attenuation & Noise Margin (SNRM) both downstream and upstream.
My connection doesnt drop. It has been on for 2 weeks. Previously I used to switch it off when not in use ( which makes perfect sense for saving power in general). Plusnet told me to leave it switched on. So I cant retest with another router.
as you can see from my router stats it has dropped by half - no hardware changes. I have tried a different filter & double filtering. Looking at the wiring it there is no ring wire connected. Router is connected directly to master socket with 1m cable (as has always been the case for the last year).
Tried fault test...Exchange Status is UNKNOWN
So I would like to know (pref from cc) when can I safely disconnect and test with another router?
Re: Speed Problems
04-01-2009 11:13 PM
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It's dropping and resyncing, unless you have been re-booting after you've been advised to leave it on. A guy from CSC posted earlier in this thread that your connection had dropped 26 times so far on that particular day. Now with all the plugging, unplugging and etc. you may have disturbed what was causing the problem and it has gone away, but there will have to be a lengthy period of stability with NO sync changes if that is the case and for anyone including CSC to believe that. You say no hardware changes - others have already said something HAS changed, we just don't know what. Your Router may have gone faulty, we know it is mis-reporting some data. That is why you must try another "good" router. As already advised the best time to re-boot if needed, that includes swap, switch on etc is daytime when your noise margins are highest. You then need to leave things running for a lengthy period, several days, with NO CHANGE in sync speed for your connection to be seen as stable.
There are a lot of very knowledgeable and qualified people on these forums many of whom have been working in these arenas for years, but this is not an official CSC support channel.
Quote from: okmbok ..............................................
So I would like to know (pref from cc) when can I safely disconnect and test with another router?
If you do not wish to accept the advice of the many experts around here, I suggest you just raise a ticket rather than ask here, but you will end up getting the same advice.
Re: Speed Problems
05-01-2009 8:28 AM
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Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:04 PM
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Quote from: okmbok ..............................................
So I would like to know (pref from cc) when can I safely disconnect and test with another router?
If you do not wish to accept the advice of the many experts around here, I suggest you just raise a ticket rather than ask here, but you will end up getting the same advice.
What is wrong with that question??
What is the criteria BT use for degrading the line profile and what is the criteria BT use for improving it?
Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:06 PM
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There's a lot of information about speeds and ip profiles in this blog.
link:speed
Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:12 PM
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Quote from: Jameseh The criteria for the raising and lowering of the IP Profile is the synchronisation speed.
There's a lot of information about speeds and ip profiles in this blog.
broadband speed faults how to diagnose
3 days to improve profile & 75mins to degrade it. Is this still the case?
Can I get BT to lower the noise margin back to 6dB?
Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:13 PM
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It varies depending on how big the difference is.
Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:15 PM
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Quote from: Jameseh 1-5 days and 75 minutes.
It varies depending on how big the difference is.
Its 13dB d/l 20db u/l atm
Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:20 PM
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Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:32 PM
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Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:40 PM
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Quote from: Oldjim Actually noise margin - but then again it still isn't speed
I was asking about the 6dB noise margin thingy..
Anyway take your pick
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 992 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 48 db 14.5 db
Noise Margin 13 db 19 db
Re: Speed Problems
06-01-2009 5:50 PM
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James was referring to the difference (change) in speed not noise margin.
Quote from: okmbok
Quote from: Jameseh 1-5 days and 75 minutes.
It varies depending on how big the difference is.
Its 13dB d/l 20db u/l atm
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