Problems streaming You Tube
You will get a much better result by downloading the TV versions and then playing them back.
you tube unplayable on unlimited right now.
me thinks PN need to increase the shadey sperate 0x80 Utube sig to have a little bit more bandwidth rate limit as normal qaulity is pausing for me every 3 seconds and looking at my bandwidth monitor i would say this shadey sig at the moment only has 400kbps givin to it.
sort it out PN. its not on giving us DS filelds to see which prioity traffic is in and then telling us actualy even thoe utube comes back as 0x80 on wireshark we still have a rate limit placed on it. this means the info on the PN site is mis leading as gold is ment to be line speed.
EDIT.
this has been brought up many times in this thread and yet PN have still NOT made mention of the peak time rate limit on you tube any where on the expected speeds page ect. brushed under the carpet and all ive seen in this thread as advice from PN staff is to pause the vid for abit to let buffering get ahead enough for it not to pause during playback. not on and it needs a couple of 100kbps extra giving to the peak time rate limit and if its plan b config messing it up then the plan b config needs setting up as to not touch the you tube shadey sig
rant over
me thinks PN need to increase the shadey sperate 0x80 Utube sig to have a little bit more bandwidth rate limit as normal qaulity is pausing for me every 3 seconds and looking at my bandwidth monitor i would say this shadey sig at the moment only has 400kbps givin to it.
sort it out PN. its not on giving us DS filelds to see which prioity traffic is in and then telling us actualy even thoe utube comes back as 0x80 on wireshark we still have a rate limit placed on it. this means the info on the PN site is mis leading as gold is ment to be line speed.
EDIT.
this has been brought up many times in this thread and yet PN have still NOT made mention of the peak time rate limit on you tube any where on the expected speeds page ect. brushed under the carpet and all ive seen in this thread as advice from PN staff is to pause the vid for abit to let buffering get ahead enough for it not to pause during playback. not on and it needs a couple of 100kbps extra giving to the peak time rate limit and if its plan b config messing it up then the plan b config needs setting up as to not touch the you tube shadey sig
rant over
well it dont help protect web browsing on unlimited as both are classed as medium 
also can you confirm if plan b is in place on the thn-ag2 box and if so whats the need for it to be on the trail box that has plenty of spare capicty as we keep geting told?
also can you confirm if plan b is in place on the thn-ag2 box and if so whats the need for it to be on the trail box that has plenty of spare capicty as we keep geting told?
Since You Tube is 99.99999% rubbish, you miss very little.
Me too! 
and me just done a BBC new page with pic - 3 seconds
just done a BBC new page with pic - 3 seconds
Even quicker 9 seconds and no problems
Quote from: Azagoth This is still a major problem. Can someone try this link
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and see how it performs.
Hmmmm, the responses that followed this post is what seriously pees me off about forums in general and often this one in particular I have to say. Here's a guy having some problems and all he gets is pretty much a bunch of "mine is bigger/better/longer/faster/whatever than yours" stylee posts in response
No offence meant to the specific users who actually posted above as I'm quite sure they don't really mean to appear 'unhelpful' and all that but please at least think before you respond to others experiencing problems and above all, please ensure that what you say is sensible and that any stats quoted are at least remotely plausible ! As someone who has experienced shedloads of probs myself over the years with the likes of youtube and PN dodgy traffic management and/or other similar issues in general, I have plenty of sympathy for Azagoth. However, in this particular case, I think the explanation may be quite simple and NOT really a PN issue at all. This is a ridiculously high bandwidth/resolution video and anyone claiming to have it DLd it in anything less than SEVERAL MINUTES is being significantly less than honest or is very confused
The total DL is ~100MB and after a several seconds delay of not doing anything at all it took ~8 mins to DL completely on my 2Mb fixed speed connection with playback paused. That's not very far off being maxed out and I have to say it's quite probably the ONLY time I have EVER seen a youtube vid DLing at anything over a few 10's KB/s !!! In short, for a 6(ish) min video it's bl**dy huuuuuge and has consumed far more of my BW in the last 10 mins than I would expect to use in an entire day and I'm not even remotely interested in watching it ;D:
There is absolutely no way that this video will EVER play whilst DLing unless your connection is around 3MB/s or better and is being maxed out. Similarly there is absolutely no way that it can ever be DLd in less than several mins almost regardless of connection type/speed. On an 8Mb connection it's still going to take at least a couple of mins providing that youtube is serving it and PN are delivering it as fast as possible.
In addition to that, the spec of the PC being used is VERY significant here as well due to the amount of data being shifted around. For instance, on the 2.4GHz P4 system with a brand spanking shiny new minimal install of WinXP and all the very best/fastest drivers available that I've just tried this out on, there is absolutely no way it would ever play whilst DLing no matter how fast the connection may be. In fact it can barely be played after it's been DLd completely as the CPU is pretty much maxed out just playing it from cache never mind trying to DL it or do anything else at all at the same time.
Sooooooo, in summary, this particular video will:
(1) Always take at least several mins to DL fully even on the fastest connection DLing 100MB in a mere few seconds is just not going to happen in reality at any time or place in the foreseeable future is it !
(2) Probably can't be watched without pauses whilst DLing even on the fastest connection and when the network is pretty quiet.
(3) Might not even play sensibly after DLing unless you have a reasonably shiny new(ish) go-faster PC.
and lastly,
(4) Was a complete and utter waste of my BW so please consider choosing something much more 'interesting' and/or 'entertaining' and something that I might actually want to watch next time Mr.Azagoth :
Of course all of the above still doesn't really resolve or explain the problem fully because we don't actually know if what is being experienced is simply "a fact of life" or is not up to the appropriate standard. What is your connection speed, line stats and PC spec ? And does the vid ever DL completely given enough time (if so how long does it take) or does it die part way through which is the the kind of problem that I most often experience ?
PS: Here's hoping that I'm reasonably correct in my figures/estimates above (and not an order of magnitude out) after suggesting that others may not be correct with theirs
TBH, I only had a quicky try using netmeter to monitor the total data being DLd and a convenient clock on the wall to time it coming in. Not exactly the most scientific of tests or well controlled to say the least !