Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
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Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:11 PM
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I'm assuming that both machines were already configured to read from the POP mailserver and have been doing so for some period of time.
B.
Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:21 PM
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Quote from: Barry Marking a message as read in one location will (almost) immediately mark it as read in another location.
Barry, Thanks for taking the time to write the detailed summary of IMAP which is very helpful. When, in the above quote, you say "mark it as read" do you mean the user marking it as read - as opposed to the computer simply recording that you have opened the message? I would want to be able to look at messages but have them remain on the server.
I think my approach to this problem now will be as follows. I still do not know the reason why this happened in the first place and assume it is something at the PN end rather than here on two separate computers.
But life goes on and I need to get sorted. And I need to know if this is a one-off or a permanent problem. Before considering IMAP further I will use my present POP3 account and set it (temporarily) to "leave messages on server for at most one day".
Then I will download by POP3 and hopefully this will then delete all my messages older than one day on the PN POP server (rather than downloading them). After that, I will set it to 14 days and see how it goes.
In the meantime I will also think about using IMAP instead.
Thank you everyone for your help this morning. It is so important to be able to "talk it through" and get help from experienced people.
Thanks!
Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:22 PM
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Quote from: Barry I'm assuming that both machines were already configured to read from the POP mailserver and have been doing so for some period of time.
That's correct, Barry.
Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:27 PM
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As Barry has pointed out, that is what IMAP is for and it would work with 1, 2 or 22 PCs. In IMAP which email have been read is stored on the IMAP (i.e. PN) server.
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Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:29 PM
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Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:30 PM
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Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:31 PM
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Quote from: jelv Can you confirm that you had previously downloaded all 10,000 messages on BOTH machines.
I had both machines when I started the PN account and they have been used since then, so I think it would be right to say all messages have been downloaded on both. Good point though!
Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:32 PM
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Quote from: Bookman When, in the above quote, you say "mark it as read" do you mean the user marking it as read - as opposed to the computer simply recording that you have opened the message?
Grey area. However...
Your client software (Thunderbird in your case) can be used to mark messages as 'Read'. The IMAP server responds to this by storing that information server-side.
Of course, viewing an email in the preview pane of Thunderbird (and Outlook) generally marks the mail as being 'read'.
In this context, the result of using the Thunderbird menu option of (right click message) -> Mark -> As Read/Unread is stored *server side* and the status of each message is then available to all other clients.
So, computer #1 marks a message as Read, and on computer #2 it will not be in bold any more.
HTH
B.
Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:36 PM
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Only downside on this is that I believe the current PN webmail does not support imap folders, but could be wrong.
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02-11-2007 2:39 PM
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Quote from: jelv If you want to get rid of all messages older than one day from the servers, IMAP (or webmail) would be a far more efficient way to do it...
In my Thunderbird account settings I cannot see any option to set it to delete messages on the server older than X days. (There is such an option in POP3 account settings, below the "leave messages on server" option.) Am I missing something?
Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:42 PM
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Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:44 PM
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Quote from: itsme Only downside on this is that I believe the current PN webmail does not support imap folders, but could be wrong.
The current PN implementation of Squirrelmail *ONLY* works with IMAP. It doesn't support a POP3 account.
B.
Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:50 PM
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Quote from: itsme Only downside on this is that I believe the current PN webmail does not support imap folders, but could be wrong.
I've created folders on one of my accounts from webmail and from Thunderbird and both can see and use the folders the other created.
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Re: Panic! 10,000 assorted spam emails just tried to download to my account
02-11-2007 2:52 PM
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02-11-2007 2:53 PM
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Quote from: Bookman In my Thunderbird account settings I cannot see any option to set it to delete messages on the server older than X days.
This is done on a per-folder basis on an IMAP account.
Right click on a folder (eg Inbox) and select Properties.
Go to "Retention Policy"
Set your per-folder retention policy there!
You can also go to the 'Offline' tab, and enable the folder for offline (ie, no Internet connection available) usage.
B.
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