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PN IP profile check/change?

gingerbloke
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Re: PN IP profile check/change?

I've done the 17070 #2 a few times today, it's been very noisy at times but never seems to do this when a BT engineer calls Smiley
It's very windy here today, I suspect this line fault will end up being a lose connection in a junction box up a pole or a tree rubbing against an overhead (it was this last time a few years back).
I'll just keep requesting BT engineer visits until they turn up on a noisy day - good job I work from home a lot.
gingerbloke
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Can you attach a radius plot pls?
I've attached RS plots from earlier today. I'll do the modem reset tomorrow.
Anotherone
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Well, if you ever wanted visual evidence of a bad phone line connection, you've got a pretty good one, but the audible noise is the thing to be continually going on about. Did that last good for nothing engineer that turned up have a fear of heights or something that prevented him from climbing your DP? Who owns the trees?
Hopefully one of the CRT will post your VR graph later today.
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gingerbloke
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Re: PN IP profile check/change?

PN / BTW have observed that the weather on Friday will be wet and windy, so have asked for an engineer to visit on that day.
Oddly enough, my daughter tells me that a BT engineer turned up yesterday, observed the noise on the line using his own equipment and then left for the exchange. The noise was still present this morning and the modem resynced when I made a test call to 17070#2
Target SNR seems to be about 15dB, looks to be around 4 resyncs in the last 24 hours
Anotherone
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I'm not sure which weather forecast they've been looking at then Shocked
Are Plusnet sending the right kind of engineer? It should be an Openreach Engineer to fix the phone line!!
Going to the exchange would be fine if he was going to use a new pair from the exchange to the Cab, but you've indicated that the issue is likely to be more local with the overhead line.
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PN have booked an engineer for tomorrow morning - broadband specialist but able to investigate the line as well apparently.

If that is still happening as with the previous engineer, I'm not surprised at the lack of progress.
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It's in the phone queue at the moment, so it's in the right place as I'm concerned about the intermittent noise.
Whilst the engineers are frustrating, we're limited in what we can do without them (even after you've had lots).

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I thought the CP could add "notes" for the attention of the OR engineer Tony? So some remark about the line still being intermittently noisy despite several previous OR engineer visits would be in order? (and that's putting it politely).

Hopefully Tony will take a look and see exactly what has been going on. Is it being dealt with as a Phone Fault? Is an experienced enough Faults agent dealing with this?
How many engineers have you had now?
PS. I did ask in reply #62 who owns the trees that gave you a problem previously?
gingerbloke
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Oh lordy!, I now have a SNR of 25+, sync now just over 1400kpbs (that's slid gently down from 5.7Mbps when the SNR and Bras was reset).
Two engineers called today, could not observe any noise, ran some tests, checked the dropwire to the house,  tried to find a spare pair on the run from cab to my house but there are no spares apparently.
Most calls I've made this evening have been very noisy.
Adam
ps the trees around here are mostly adjacent to farmers fields
Anotherone
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Just wondering who might have to deal with the offending trees (if any) - local authority or farmers perhaps - whether either would have to foot an OR bill is another thought  Shocked
So did the engineers say what their next move would be?
gingerbloke
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The engineers said it needs to be looked at when the line's actually bad (or has ultimately failed).
It does seem to behave while they're here and for a good few hours afterwards, is it possible that the testing of the line itself somehow clears the fault for a while?
It's getting to me, I think I may have to leave my rural idyll and move to the city with fibre Smiley
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Somewhere down the line (pun intended) I thought that the remote testing from the exchange did some TDR tests and could then indicate the approximate location of the issue - I may be wrong on that.  What I do know is that the TDR modules on the JDSU the engineers have are nowhere near as good as the old Hawk testers were Sad
gingerbloke
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I was at home on a conference call about half an hour ago (using mobile) so I put the line on BT test 17070 # 2 in the background.
It resets after 5 minutes and you have to redial, but the calls went :
#1 no noise at all
#2 no noise at all
#3 quiet then some crackling for about 40 seconds @ 2m40s into the call
#4 no noise at all
#5 no noise at all
#6 no noise at all
#7 no noise at all
gingerbloke
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Woke up this morning to 480kbps sync rate  Shocked
I've reset the modem and run BTW:
Download speedachieved during the test was - 0.33 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.05 Mbps-0.5 Mbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :3.39 Mbps(DOWN-STREAM), 0.45 Mbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 0.35 Mbps
So since the BT broadband engineer came out and reset my BRAS profile and SNR I've gone from a healthy 5.7 Mbps to 0.33 Mbps in a matter of days. And my IP profile will stick me on this rate for the next few days regardless of my actual sync rate.
Line very noisy this morning, I think I need BT to call about 6am and stay for the day next visit.
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Oh, that's abysmal. What's your current sync speed? As it obviously went very low, if it's now high, the profile may pick up in a matter of hours.
Does sound like you really need the engineer to attend when it's windy, but then what are they going to do if there are no spare pairs? Did they say what was going to be done about that at all?
Really disappointed at the lack of Plusnet CRT response on here.
What's the latest on the ticket?
gingerbloke
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SNR is currently at 30, how high can it go??? Sync now just 768Kpbs
Ticket is still open, awaiting next move. TBF, BT are sending engineers out, they've just not managed to sort the problem yet. Last time I had this problem it took 8 or more visits but once fixed the line was excellent for years.
I just disconnected and then powered off the modem for 10 minutes. Back on now, synced at 3.49Mbps but the IP profile is stuck at 0.35Mbps
Is there anyway a permanent IP profile reset can be applied to a line whilst it's being investigated for errors? Even a daily or hourly reset would help. As it is, I'm stuck on 0.35Mpbs until late Monday, and that's only if the line stays healthy.
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If that current connection speed holds (no drops) for at least 4 hours, then the profile should rise (to 3Mbps). Your Current Line speed then has to rise to match of course - that may take 3 hours, unless you can nobble someone from Plusnet once your IP Profile is back up to manually update it for you.
I'm not aware of any way of permanently resetting an IP Profile and as this is 20CN, that make life doubly difficult.
Hopefully your IP profile will be back up anytime now.