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No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
12-05-2008 6:16 PM
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Since we have just signed up for PN Homephone+ without the BT 1571 Voicemail facility we got a new landline phone with answering machine and two cordless handsets. This is plugged in to the master socket so I therefore realise that we can now do without any of our phone extension wiring to kitchen and main bedroom.
I currently run a phone extension cable from the bedroom extension socket to another bedroom with my PC in. The microfilter is on the end of the extension lead and we have never used analogue phones on any of the extensions.
I am therfore thinking of fitting a filtered faceplate to the master socket and buying a wireless router which could sit in the lounge. Not connect the extension wiring from the master socket to the new faceplate. Continue to use the PC upstairs.
Advice please!
Will this work?
Just in case I do ever buy a laptop and want to network it, what would be a reliable router for just two computers?
Could I expect to see the speed improvement I saw on my test?
Do you leave routers switched on permanently?
The BT site says we are 3.25km from the exchange in a straight line and 4.83km by road and estimate our max d/l speed would therefore be 1Mb.
Expert opinions would be appreciated.
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
12-05-2008 6:18 PM
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Can you obtain the downstream attenuation for your line from your current modem/router?
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
12-05-2008 6:29 PM
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I will haul my big PC down to the test socket and try again tomorow if you need it from there.
Thanks.
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
12-05-2008 6:34 PM
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IF 39.5 is your downstream attenuation it imples a line length of under 3km and potential speed of 7mbps!
At the distances and speeds you've quoted attenuation would be in the 60's, eg. 65dB.
Try it downstairs but it usually doesn't make a difference to attenuation as such. It's a measure of your total line length and indication of maximum speed in perfect conditions.
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
12-05-2008 6:56 PM
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12-05-2008 7:04 PM
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12-05-2008 7:49 PM
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12-05-2008 7:54 PM
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It's the sync rates that change and you've already done that I believe.
Attenuation tells you what the target is, sync speed how close. But it's never exact.
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13-05-2008 7:55 AM
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Line attenuation gives an idea of line distance and power of the signal (the further away you are the lower the power), SNR/Margin gives an idea of signal quality. You can have a short line but low SNR and get low sync speeds. You can also have a long line with high SNR and get faster speeds. In general the longer your line the lower your SNR will be.
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13-05-2008 10:02 AM
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Although Peter, you can easily argue it from both sides of the coin
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
13-05-2008 2:14 PM
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OK just tested from the test socket behind the master socket in lounge with a standard PN-supplied microfilter and the new cordless phone connected.
BT speedtester gave profile of 750K, connect rates of 1984/448 and actual throughput of 686.
Just prior to that the PN speedtester gave 744/381.
Modem (Voyager 105) data:
Data rate 1984/448
Line Rate 2208/544
Attenuation Local 57.5 dB Remote 31.5 dB
SNR margin Local 6.5 dB Remote 8.5 dB
As it happened the line then dropped and after reconnecting the figures changed slightly to
Data rate 1952/448
Line Rate 2176/544
Attenuation Local 58 dB Remote 31.5 dB
SNR margin Local 7 dB Remote 8 dB
Look forward to your comments. But don't forget my questions from the original post please!
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
13-05-2008 4:56 PM
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Quote from: EmpireCad
Will this work?
Just in case I do ever buy a laptop and want to network it, what would be a reliable router for just two computers?
Could I expect to see the speed improvement I saw on my test?
Do you leave routers switched on permanently?
Yes
Yes
Maybe
Yes
...in that order
Extensions can cause problems, so you will generally get the best speed by connecting straight to a filtered faceplate with a short cable from the router. You can either work wirelessly or run CAT5 network cable to the PC. If you are syncing at 2000-ish you should get a profile about 1500, but it might take a few days for BT to catch up.
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
13-05-2008 5:26 PM
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58dB attenuation could even get you 3mbps if you're lucky.
So you need to be consistently connected at the faster speeds and then wait at least 3 days before BT will believe it and let you use it. Meanwhile your IP profile stays low :(.
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
14-05-2008 2:17 PM
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When you talk about BT "catching up" and "BT will believe it and let you use it" I presume this all happens automatically as part of the line "training" process ie I just have to leave the router on permanently and hope it doesn't drop the connection? Sorry if this is all basic stuff to you but I've never used a router before.
Re: No phone extensions for increased BB speed?
14-05-2008 2:20 PM
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