How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
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How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
16-09-2008 11:01 PM
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Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
17-09-2008 12:23 PM
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I'll raise it internally and see what i can do
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
17-09-2008 1:07 PM
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As long as you don't start overriding a legitimate 404 (or other applicable error message) then fine.
B.
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
17-09-2008 1:09 PM
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Quote from: Barry As long as you don't start overriding a legitimate 404 (or other applicable error message) then fine.
Can you actually do it without that? The browser page appears when it receives a 404 error? Surely you'd need to be returning a page to display, which would be a 200?
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Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
17-09-2008 1:18 PM
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The problems are listed in the wikipedia article, and it's something that I believe fairly strongly shouldn't be tampered with.
HOWEVER...
If it is the case of a legitimate domain address that is temporarily unavailable then it may be prudent to display a "helpful" page. It's whether it can be determined on the fly and a page rendered fast enough to not be disruptive.
B.
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
18-09-2008 6:59 PM
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Or redirecting the requests that would be submitted to the likes of google when a server is unreachable/resolution fails to its own search facility.
Sorry , never stared at the source code for a browser so these are just semi-educated stabs in the dark....
Remember that as the project is based on Open Source it could be doing anything.
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
18-09-2008 7:27 PM
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A 404 error is a HTTP protocol status code stating the URI accessed does not exist. How browsers react to this is differently. Firefox wfor example will display the output, Internet Exploder will display it's internal 404 page, unless the content returned is over X bytes (can't remember the requirement).
In order to receive the 404 status code, you have to have already connected to the HTTP server. And as the chain goes, you have to have received a valid DNS result for said hostname.
DNS is only about looking up the IP of a hostname and will not know if the URI you are seeking actually exists, hell, DNS is not even told about the URI itself.
So, some examples sir?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/Radio1/
Notice the subtle difference? No. OK, The word Radio is caps in one and not in the other.
Without the caps, you get the page you are looking for, with the caps, you get a 404 page.
Now, DNS will only ever know you have looked for www.bbc.co.uk, not what page on the BEEB.
What is being asked for in this post is good in one way, not in others. It works when DNS is not working, DNS returns no results or DNS suggests the domain does not exist only.
It needs to be implemented correctly, otherwise it breaks email for customers.
Want my personal opinion, the technical issues it can create for customers outweigh the functionality benefits, and gets my no vote.
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
18-09-2008 8:04 PM
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Certainly if we did it, I'd want to push us towards having an opt-out for customers like me who cherish the simpler things in life.
Ian
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
18-09-2008 9:41 PM
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SO I'd suspect that this server is down rather than anything else because as Phil and Ian say DNS only contains IP addresses for the host machine so it couldn't possibly return a 404
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
18-09-2008 10:07 PM
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can`t display ................
[ ok ]
or similar...
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
18-09-2008 10:11 PM
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Looks more like Gandalf the White to me
Re: How about adding a nice error message to Plusnet DNS servers
18-09-2008 11:00 PM
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Now, if I found a better one, I could change it on all the fora as it is linked to my webspace. Alternatively I could Photoshop it to change it to Gandalf the grey - that would be closer to real life
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11-10-2008 9:29 PM
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11-10-2008 10:13 PM
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12-10-2008 2:46 PM
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