Fibre being installed 31st August - I have a Q regarding the extension cabling
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Fibre being installed 31st August - I have a Q regarding the extension cabling
16-08-2012 2:31 PM
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I have finally, now that all 5 members of our house use the ADSL, to upgrade to FTTC broadband.
I think I'm set with everything except the fact that I need a new master socket plate and wiring.
The problem is the master socket is a long way from my modem/router and not in an acceptable location for connecting any PC equipment to. the way I see it, either the extension cable will need to run around the exterior of approximately half the house, or I need the master socket moved into the room where the modem/router lives.
Is it possible for the engineer to leave my current master socket as is, and just convert/replace the already present extension socket in my office? That way all I would need is the fibre cable straight from the modem into the wall socket 0.5 metres away, instead of being almost 30M away! would I lose any bandwidth from doing this?
thanks
Graham
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16-08-2012 3:12 PM
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If you are really having FTTC then you will not be getting any new wires or fibre to your property. The signal is sent over the existing copper wires from your local green street cabinet. BT will put a new face plate on your ,master socket and from that then cay then run a data extension for you to another room for your router.
Just shout if that didnt make sense as I have only been getting my head around this for a week or so now
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16-08-2012 6:12 PM
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Thanks yes that is how I understood it. The problem is that the extension would need to go outside etc and it would be much easier just to replace the faceplate on the extension in my office.
As you say it is just copper up to the point the new faceplate is installed, so I can't see an issue with replacing the extension with the new faceplate. I'm probably totally wrong though!
regards
graham
Re: Fibre being installed 31st August - I have a Q regarding the extension cabling
16-08-2012 7:26 PM
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Lots of tea/coffee biccies/cream cakes and if you get a nice Open Reach engineer you may be ok.
PN staff can probably clarify.
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16-08-2012 8:12 PM
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dick:quote
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16-08-2012 8:23 PM
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Re: Fibre being installed 31st August - I have a Q regarding the extension cabling
16-08-2012 11:57 PM
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If it has been done properly, your office extension should be connected to the current master socket with (at least) 'proper' 4-core phone cable with 2 twisted wire pairs. The phone will use 1 of these pairs and the other won't be used at present.
Normally the line coming in would go to the master where it would be split into the broadband and phone signals, and 2 'lines' would come out - 1 for broadband and 1 for any phone extensions. Each of these needs 1 pair of wires. The BT engineer will want to do this and to run a separate 'data' cable to the modem.
What COULD be done is to use one pair of the existing extension cable to extend the incoming line to your study, install the master there and use the other pair to carry the phone signal back to where the master originally was and install an extension socket there.
The amount of degradation would depend on the quality of the existing wiring. The extra length to the master socket wouldn't do much because the signal has already come a fair distance from the cabinet on similar cable. The main problem is that there would be crosstalk (interference) in the cable to the study and it's difficult to predict how bad that might be..
It would also be possible to put the new master where the existing one is and use the extension cable (2 pairs) to carry both broadband and phone to separate sockets at the study end. (This mightn't be so good as there would be more crosstalk after the filter.)
Re: Fibre being installed 31st August - I have a Q regarding the extension cabling
17-08-2012 11:10 AM
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It's one of those things where it depends on the engineer and if they have the appropriate equipment/parts with them but as BRABUS put it if they're nice ply with them with tea and biscuits and that may help the situation
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17-08-2012 12:23 PM
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17-08-2012 2:07 PM
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Cheaper alternative I normally suggest is to find a mate who's an electrician to move the socket for you. But sometimes engineers are nice and do it for free
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17-08-2012 2:18 PM
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17-08-2012 2:24 PM
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17-08-2012 4:29 PM
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17-08-2012 4:38 PM
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when i had my fibre install i also needed to move my master socket ,from one side of the house to the other ,, nice mr BT after some nice Tea N bikkies and a chat rerouted my cable for me to a perfect position for my PC .
so i dint have to use any extension wires
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Re: Fibre being installed 31st August - I have a Q regarding the extension cabling
17-08-2012 6:24 PM
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Quote from: rongtw A nice start there BRABUS
Haha you don't get tea and bicuits like that from me (google image) , from me you get a mug slapped in one hand a pack of biccies in the other
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