Seems you might have missed that last post, so I didn't rush to reply - never mind.
Thanks for confirming that the wiring to this second extension socket is to the same standard..
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| .........based on the reply earlier on in the thread was that interstatial vdsl plate would provide isolation from the house wiring your latest reply seems imply my impression is wrong, I assume that I cannot use both the iPlate and the vdsl unit. |
I'm afraid I don't think you can use both because the vDSL plate will I believe not physically fit on top of the i-Plate but I don't have one to hand to prove that one way or the other, it might be a simple matter of screw length. The total combination would stick out rather a lot. Yes the vDSL plate will "isolate" by which is meant "filter" the extension wiring, but the effects are usually only noticed when the rest of the wiring isn't the correct standard or defective/problematic in some way. If you have remade all the IDC joints that should have cleared up that aspect and as long as there is no corrosion on any of the sockets or connectors that's another taken care of. The ultimate check is testing which I'll explain more thoroughly in a moment.
With reference to these 585v8 stats, there is several things that particularly concern me, one of which I will address first because of the impact on further testing - that is the Downstream (DS) sync speed or Bandwidth Down as it's called on the Thomson is about half or less of what you had before, this may be because the 585 is defective (I'll come back to that) but it could be because your speed has been "Banded" by the Exchange DLM because of all the Disconnections with checking and testing.
So from now on I'd strongly recommend the following Disconnect method -
Log in to the Modem/Router, in the Internet box (or wherever it show shows ISP login etc), click Disconnect to drop the PPP Internet session (this is not the sync), wait about a minute and then power down the Modem/Router. After about another minute you can unplug it from the line.
Do whatever is needed, swap sockets, filters etc, but stay offline for at least 10 minutes. When you re-connect and power up, Login to the Modem/Router and click Connect to establish a new PPP session.
Don't do this more than 5 times in an hour, then leave it for the rest of the day. This method is to help stop the Exchange DLM from thinking your sync loss was a dropped connection.
If you have a modem/router that doesn't have an interface for you to drop the PPP session, then pull the power plug and wait a minute or two before unplugging from the line.
One further point, especially applicable to very long lines, you will get very small differences in sync speed every time you sync, so just because you get a
marginally better sync speed in one situation, it doesn't
necessarily mean that situation is better than another situation.
The first set of 585v8 stats there have some very strange values, upstream errors are supposedly enormous compared to the down stream - even on the second set - very unlikely. Error seconds and Loss of Signal are also daft values in the first set - something I know those Thomsons can misreport, but the daftest is the Maximum Bandwidth Up which is 14,686 or 14,096kbps in the 2nd set. There is no way on this earth that you can get those upstream speeds on ADSL2+ or indeed up or down on your connection. All in all I must conclude that the 585v8 may be defective, but is certainly untrustworthy from the point of view of testing. Stick with the Belkin for the time being.
I suggest the following for the next set of tests. Leave the i-Plate in place for all of them, use the same filter, and remember the Disconnect method. Do the tests in daylight hours, ideally somewhere between 1000 & 1600, preferably all within the same hour more or less.
First, plug directly into the i-Plate, power up and grab a set of stats straight away. Leave it 10 minutes and take a second set of stats. Post those when done, straight away if you would.
Remembering the Disconnect method - refit the Front Plate and then plug into the Master Socket and power up. Grab a set of stats straight away and then wait 10 minutes and take a second set of stats and post all those.
Remembering the Disconnect method again, now go to your regular extension socket. Power up and grab a set of stats straight away, leave it 10 minutes and grab another set and post both of them.
If you wish to try your other extension socket, please do, it could be interesting to see what differences there may be in the figures.
We need to check if your Connection Speed has been banded, and if so get it resolved. I'm sure someone from the DCT can do that for us.
and thanks for the Visual Radius as well.