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CSC Agents not answering the right question

godsell4
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Thanks James,
I did wonder what I had to do to get the attention of a person with the job title "Complaints, Distressed & Customer Satisfaction Lead ". Wink
I see an agent has added a further ticket to my account, I have added my mobile number to that ticket. I'll take a deep breath and be gentle with them I promise.
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James
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Cheers. 
It's Richard.  He'll give you a ring in a bit.
godsell4
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

James,
Thanks to Richard, I think we are all starting from fresh and have made progress.
See attached for why I wanted to see a longer history of delta reports, you can see that after Aug/17th, the frequency of delta report activity has significantly increased. The gaps of white space between those peeks are periods where there were no new delta reports.
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Quote from: godsell4
Hopefully that comment was not intended to cause anger, I certainly had to step away from the keyboard though when I read this.

It did raise an eyebrow for the lurking follower(s). Was also close to posting something  about a well known fault  fixing isp Wink
There are clear issues  & I hope its sorted asap for you. Smiley
cheers f9o
godsell4
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Thanks for following  Cry
Back in the days before PN was bought by BT, there was a alledged capacity problem and a number of people set up a tool/website which showed when packet loss was happening, it used too send ping requests to a person router I think. Does anybody remember the name of that tool?
Right now I am using the following ping command ping -t -l 255 -f ntp.plus.net and it shows some sporadic variations in latency, the peaks in latency occur at about 20s intervals, these seem to coincide with when my router indicates the HEC/CRC counts are going up too.
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Could somebody who is on a reliable line also repeat this ping test (it is important to use the same command which is ping -t -l 255 -f ntp.plus.net) and do you see these same variations? Thanks.
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JayG
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Always happy to find an excuse to avoid housework!
After about 5 minutes all pings were 20-22ms apart from 1 of 28ms and 1 of 30ms.
(Shut it down after that time - I'm not that bored!)
godsell4
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Thanks JayG, glad to help.
Is there anybody else running the ping monitor from the thinkbroadband website?
My plot is here:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/0f3b25d1523cab6d2435155d6225b60f.html
If anybody else has a link to their results, I would be very grateful to see it.
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Godsell4
Hope this helps
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Quote from: godsell4
Back in the days before PN was bought by BT, there was a alledged capacity problem and a number of people set up a tool/website which showed when packet loss was happening, it used too send ping requests to a person router I think. Does anybody remember the name of that tool?

You were probably thinking of l8nc which following it's demise inspired http://f8lure.mouselike.org/auth.asp
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godsell4
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Thanks John, Yes that was the tool I was thinking of.
The live graph of the latency of my line is shown above, of course this includes the latency across the BT and PN network too, not just that of the DSL connection of the router and exchange.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/0f3b25d1523cab6d2435155d6225b60f.html
Also, see attached, which is another plot of the delta reports, it shows a couple of interesting things.
From the left, it shows a sync speed of 1500 or so, the SNR targt was 15db then I think. Next, the DLM changes the SNR target to 12 and the speed rises.Then you can see when the fault occurs. Each dot on the chart is a new delta report, so the line to the right of each dot is the period of time when there was no new delta report.
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Waiting at home today for another BTO engineer to visit, still waiting actually.
Last night there wa a lot of rain and I had expected to see RouterStats show sync loss this morning, but it did not.
This morning though, I could see a large storm coming towards the house. I set RouterStats going and sure enough the SNR dropped, and then lost sync after about 10mins of *very* heavy rain. I could see the SNR drop (a 2Wire router was connected), then the SNR dropped to Zero and DSL was down. I picked up the phone and I could hear strange noises, some whistling and the whooshing sound you hear when an AM or SW radio is being tuned.
See SNR plot attached.
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

HI godsell4,
Hopefully there will be a bit more for the engineer to get his teeth into this time.
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Not a complete failure, at least the rainstorms today meant that a fault was detected, but I am down to 1856kb/s now. Sad
Have agreed a plan of action with Richard though, have not had the BTO report back yet though.
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Re: CSC Agents not answering the right question

Just had more rain, very heavy, and the line disconnected again.
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