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Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
13-04-2009 2:09 AM
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It would be bad enough installing the Phorm spyware - but to attempt to lock people in would gain them so much bad publicity that it would be suicidal.
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
14-04-2009 2:30 AM
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has anybody had any actual experience of it in action ?
oh by the way a big comet is going to hit earth in 5 to 10 years time, should we a) fire the missiles now or b)wait to see if it will hit us and how big it is before we fire
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
14-04-2009 3:27 AM
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Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
14-04-2009 1:04 PM
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Quote from: Dodgydog What is the difference ?
This is off-topic but...
1) The Phorm user gets no reward.
2) Supermarkets don't force you to have a store card.
3) Nor are you required to use it, or otherwise identify yourself, for every purchase.
4) Supermarkets don't pretend it's anonymous.
Such discussions are probably best held on the Phorm thread, before a friendly moderator has a "quiet word".
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
14-04-2009 5:12 PM
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the following link may be of interest you you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7998009.stm
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
14-04-2009 9:04 PM
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Back on topic if you wouldn't mind...
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
14-04-2009 9:09 PM
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Seems "the boss" wasn't even prepared to rule out using Phorm software - even though it's illegal (in Europe).
Perhaps a few more hard facts for us to get our teeth into.
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
14-04-2009 9:33 PM
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Why do anything else but lead from the rear with front line troops like those.
Management is a bit like politics as far as straight absolute answers are concerned.
To argue with someone who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead - Thomas Paine
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
15-04-2009 11:09 AM
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1. I do not accept Chemical Brother's apparent view that all the messages here should be sanitized, creepily polite, sycophantic agreement with everything Mr Vollmer says. If that is the level of moderation that is to be enforced, then this whole process is pointless.
2. Many of the answers are meaningless. Putting "Currently" in the Phorm answer could mean "until someone walks into my office and says different" - which could be in 2 minutes time. If Mr Vollmer had said "Phorm will not be introduced for at least one year and we have no plans at the moment to introduce it at that time", it would have been a stronger answer that would have left Plusnet reasonable business freedom and satisfied more customers.
3. Similarly, the answers about retaining legacy products and additional features left plenty of room for manoeuvre. You want CGI, sure, its £10 per month extra. Its the BT way - charging extra for every minor add-on that their competitors include as part of package
4. Finally, with regard to the 03 number for support. I am happy with this answer providing the 0114 number continues to function. However, I saw no commitment that it would. Plusnet Home phone is not much of a bargain when compared with 18185 and the like, so I do not see myself joining just to get free support calls.
I suppose the answers ruled out my worst possible nightmares but they were very much at the level of business press release speak - emphasise that the glass still has beer in it but don't point out that half of it has already been drunk!
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
15-04-2009 11:57 AM
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Quote from: EnglishMohican
2. Many of the answers are meaningless. Putting "Currently" in the Phorm answer could mean "until someone walks into my office and says different" - which could be in 2 minutes time. If Mr Vollmer had said "Phorm will not be introduced for at least one year and we have no plans at the moment to introduce it at that time", it would have been a stronger answer that would have left Plusnet reasonable business freedom and satisfied more customers.
I disagree. "At the moment" means the same as "currently" so there's no difference between the answer you are criticising and the one you propose.
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
15-04-2009 12:32 PM
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"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
15-04-2009 12:39 PM
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Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
15-04-2009 1:48 PM
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Quote from: EnglishMohican 2. Many of the answers are meaningless. Putting "Currently" in the Phorm answer could mean "until someone walks into my office and says different" - which could be in 2 minutes time. If Mr Vollmer had said "Phorm will not be introduced for at least one year and we have no plans at the moment to introduce it at that time", it would have been a stronger answer that would have left Plusnet reasonable business freedom and satisfied more customers.
My Bold See the red bit
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
15-04-2009 2:17 PM
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Our regulators are poodles - luckily the EU have a bit more backbone.
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
Re: Ask the Boss - Answers discussion thread
15-04-2009 4:00 PM
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There is a big article in the latest Personal Computer World Mag, Jun 2009/ Voln32 No 6.
Another throw away comment it is against EU law to take personal information collected outside the EU and since Phorm is out side the EU ........
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