ADSL2+ Tones & Bitloading
Thanks for that Mr. Eagle, that all looks very interesting. Most of us run DMT and/or RouterStats and that looks a useful addition. Funnily enough I started to read a thread over there the other day on this sort of thing, and needless to say a few of your posts cropped up 
Hi Bald_Eagle
thanks for the info, certainly is an impressive array of graphs
Not sure if I can make use of it though as the telnet operation of my router is different to that of the Netgears (requires interactive login). I'll take a look and see if I can come up with some edit that will work although my batch and script file skills are rather dated now
cheers
Graham
thanks for the info, certainly is an impressive array of graphs
Not sure if I can make use of it though as the telnet operation of my router is different to that of the Netgears (requires interactive login). I'll take a look and see if I can come up with some edit that will work although my batch and script file skills are rather dated now
cheers
Graham
Hi Paul
The router is a Zoom X7n. At the mo I run a DOS command prompt and telnet directly to the router (see attached). The firmware offers both the adsl and adslctl commands so no problem there.
I've yet to discover if I can login via a script or batch file and get any useful output, as I said my scripting is a little rusty, i.e. not used since Win95
cheers
Graham
The router is a Zoom X7n. At the mo I run a DOS command prompt and telnet directly to the router (see attached). The firmware offers both the adsl and adslctl commands so no problem there.
I've yet to discover if I can login via a script or batch file and get any useful output, as I said my scripting is a little rusty, i.e. not used since Win95
cheers
Graham
@ Graham,
I thnk you may have "forgotten" to attach the attachment
My own scripting isn't rusty as I haven't been doing any for long enough.
If BT OR hadn't supplied locked HG612 modems for FTTC connections I wouldn't have done any at all, as someone else would have already developed some software for us to see/graph our connection stats.
Having got the scripts working reliably with automated telnet logins (via Plink, not Windows Telnet) - (eventually) it then just seemed natural to adapt them for use with some routers on ADSL connections.
Cheers,
Paul.
Quote from: GrahamC The router is a Zoom X7n. At the mo I run a DOS command prompt and telnet directly to the router (see attached). The firmware offers both the adsl and adslctl commands so no problem there.
I thnk you may have "forgotten" to attach the attachment
My own scripting isn't rusty as I haven't been doing any for long enough.
If BT OR hadn't supplied locked HG612 modems for FTTC connections I wouldn't have done any at all, as someone else would have already developed some software for us to see/graph our connection stats.
Having got the scripts working reliably with automated telnet logins (via Plink, not Windows Telnet) - (eventually) it then just seemed natural to adapt them for use with some routers on ADSL connections.
Cheers,
Paul.
Whoops 
Done so far:
Edited scripts to use 192.168.1.1
Edited Login.txt files for correct user/password details
Ouput so far....
plink was running and is still running
Done so far:
Edited scripts to use 192.168.1.1
Edited Login.txt files for correct user/password details
Ouput so far....
11/06/2012 22:10:08.79 ***** It looks as though Plink had some sort of problem*****
BCM96328 Broadband Router
Login: admin
Password:
Login incorrect. Try again.
Login: exit
^@
Password: Login incorrect. Try again.
Login:
Let's see what is still running that might have caused the problem
11/06/2012 22:10:08.79 - Is curl running?
INFO: No tasks are running which match the specified criteria.
11/06/2012 22:10:08.79 - Curl wasn't killed - Maybe it wasn't running
11/06/2012 22:10:08.79 - Is plink running?
INFO: No tasks are running which match the specified criteria.
11/06/2012 22:10:08.79 - Plink wasn't killed - Maybe it wasn't running
11/06/2012 22:10:08.79 - Is sleep running?
INFO: No tasks are running which match the specified criteria.
11/06/2012 22:10:08.79 - Sleep wasn't killed - Maybe it wasn't running
11/06/2012 22:10:09.15 ***** Start of getstats.BAT data collection ERRORS **************************************
plink was running and is still running
Muchas gracias Paul
I re-edited the login text files to Unix style line endings (LF not CR/LF) and managed to get logged in
but still had this in Error.log
After re-reading the CLI manual for the router, it's apparent that "adslctl" command is not supported*. Not to be defeated, I've edited all instances of "adslctl" to read "adsl" and presto, all is running and currently compiling data.
Attached is the Current Stats compilation.
BTW, used Notepad2 for the editing which is a programmers editor and allows some neat customisations in the way it operates
* misled by DMT which seems to work with both commands ????
cheers
Graham
EDIT: Seems like the output from the Netgears and this router are formatted differently. I'm currently editing the .BAT file to suit and will post back once I have some results.
I re-edited the login text files to Unix style line endings (LF not CR/LF) and managed to get logged in
but still had this in Error.log
12/06/2012 9:14:39.65 ***** It looks as though Plink had some sort of problem*****
BCM96328 Broadband Router
Login: admin
Password:
> adslctl info --stats
telnetd:error:837.271:processInput:432:unrecognized command adslctl info --stats
>
> exit
Bye bye. Have a nice day!!!
Let's see what is still running that might have caused the problem
12/06/2012 9:14:39.65 - Is curl running?
INFO: No tasks are running which match the specified criteria.
12/06/2012 9:14:39.65 - Curl wasn't killed - Maybe it wasn't running
12/06/2012 9:14:39.65 - Is plink running?
INFO: No tasks are running which match the specified criteria.
12/06/2012 9:14:39.65 - Plink wasn't killed - Maybe it wasn't running
12/06/2012 9:14:39.65 - Is sleep running?
INFO: No tasks are running which match the specified criteria.
12/06/2012 9:14:39.65 - Sleep wasn't killed - Maybe it wasn't running
12/06/2012 9:14:39.96 ***** Start of getstats.BAT data collection ERRORS **************************************
After re-reading the CLI manual for the router, it's apparent that "adslctl" command is not supported*. Not to be defeated, I've edited all instances of "adslctl" to read "adsl" and presto, all is running and currently compiling data.
Attached is the Current Stats compilation.
BTW, used Notepad2 for the editing which is a programmers editor and allows some neat customisations in the way it operates
* misled by DMT which seems to work with both commands ????
cheers
Graham
EDIT: Seems like the output from the Netgears and this router are formatted differently. I'm currently editing the .BAT file to suit and will post back once I have some results.
Hi Graham,
"not sure on some of the data" ? - do you mean the US RS stuff being plotted (RHS middle graphs), also DS RS words?
Just a few quick other things at the moment, did you have problems getting RouterStats telnet working? I thought you'd got it going OK. On the Telnet Experimental settings tab, I had to change the Command set to "adsl info --stats" for my Broadcom chipset (it is an older one mind).
However I'm still having problems getting it to plot the Bits/Tone etc which is strange because DMT does it fine.
Ah, ha. Don't assume that. You aren't suffering any obvious broadcast interference. Don't forget there will be a very large number of other pairs in the cable back to the exchange and there will be small coupling effects between them all. Now whether for some strange reason that causes the effects that you are seeing, well who knows, but one to bear in mind?
One other possibility of course is some strange interaction between modem/router Broadcom chipsets and the IFTN/TI MSAN.
By the way I didn't have a problem telnetting in either using Windows Telnet at the Run box or Telnet in a Cmd prompt (XPSP3).
PS. You still forgot the attachment on reply #18
"not sure on some of the data" ? - do you mean the US RS stuff being plotted (RHS middle graphs), also DS RS words?
Just a few quick other things at the moment, did you have problems getting RouterStats telnet working? I thought you'd got it going OK. On the Telnet Experimental settings tab, I had to change the Command set to "adsl info --stats" for my Broadcom chipset (it is an older one mind).
However I'm still having problems getting it to plot the Bits/Tone etc which is strange because DMT does it fine.
Quote Looking at it another way, it is that my line does not suffer from RF interference at all, and should not have any tones marked as unusable.
Ah, ha. Don't assume that. You aren't suffering any obvious broadcast interference. Don't forget there will be a very large number of other pairs in the cable back to the exchange and there will be small coupling effects between them all. Now whether for some strange reason that causes the effects that you are seeing, well who knows, but one to bear in mind?
One other possibility of course is some strange interaction between modem/router Broadcom chipsets and the IFTN/TI MSAN.
By the way I didn't have a problem telnetting in either using Windows Telnet at the Run box or Telnet in a Cmd prompt (XPSP3).
PS. You still forgot the attachment on reply #18
Yes, US and DS RS, the graphs quote Corrected errors, but I presume these are just the count of "RS words".
On routerstats, all is running OK, but I did have to open out the polling time for the bitloading. It's on the Bits/Tone - Options tab under Refresh Timing. I've set mine to 2 minutes as anything less seems to interfere with RS's normal operation.
The comment on RF interference was in regard to the AM Radio broadcasts that x47c was obviously suffering from. Now crosstalk with other subscriber cabling is a different matter, and one I've yet to explore. Maybe I need to enroll at BTOR although my Telecom education is a little dated now (Plessey Telecom circa '75 )
I've not ruled out the MSAN/Chipset interaction, especially with the bad press that TI DSLAMS had early on with ADSL.
As for Telnet, the DOS box as far as I know is not scriptable, these scripts use a util called Plink so something I've not come across before, but I'm always one for a challenge
The attachment...errrr got attached to post#20
cheers
Graham
On routerstats, all is running OK, but I did have to open out the polling time for the bitloading. It's on the Bits/Tone - Options tab under Refresh Timing. I've set mine to 2 minutes as anything less seems to interfere with RS's normal operation.
The comment on RF interference was in regard to the AM Radio broadcasts that x47c was obviously suffering from. Now crosstalk with other subscriber cabling is a different matter, and one I've yet to explore. Maybe I need to enroll at BTOR although my Telecom education is a little dated now (Plessey Telecom circa '75
)I've not ruled out the MSAN/Chipset interaction, especially with the bad press that TI DSLAMS had early on with ADSL.
As for Telnet, the DOS box as far as I know is not scriptable, these scripts use a util called Plink so something I've not come across before, but I'm always one for a challenge
The attachment...errrr got attached to post#20
cheers
Graham
No problem Paul and thanks for the heads up and help
cheers
Graham