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Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
11-08-2011 11:25 PM
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One more update. A telephone socket upstairs did not work when the faceplate was removed from the master socket. Does this perhaps imply that the master socket is wired up correctly, or is one socket working when the faceplate is removed enough to prove that the master socket is wired incorrectly?
It sounds like there is an issue with the master socket. Matt, you said that therefore this is BT's issue. Do I get them to come round now to sort this out?
Thanks,
Ben
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 12:22 AM
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Quote from: bbrazil I have two separate telephone lines / numbers coming into my house.
A typical incoming BT cable or "drop wire" will only have 4 cores, i.e. can carry 2 circuits.
Trying to then wire in a "looped back" extension via a third circuit is doomed to failure.
Get a PROPER PROFESSIONAL engineer in to sort it out.
(and don't pay the first one)
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 8:17 AM
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Quote from: bbrazil A telephone socket upstairs did not work when the faceplate was removed from the master socket. Does this perhaps imply that the master socket is wired up correctly, or is one socket working when the faceplate is removed enough to prove that the master socket is wired incorrectly?
When you remove the faceplate to the master socket then ALL the extensions sockets should stop working. So the implication is that you have one extension socket upstairs that is wired correctly and the rest are not. But your "cowboy" might have somehow bridged the wiring so I do not think you can be sure your wiring was bad before he came.
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 8:59 AM
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The rest of you extensions could be wired directly off your outside junction box or the input to the master socket.
As said this is not good both from a technical point of view with respect to getting the best broadband performance, or from a safety point of view as it bypasses the spark-gap safety device on the input to the master socket.
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 9:34 AM
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I would strongly recommend to get in touch with your telephone provider with regards to your new line. The fact that your telephone line does not ring when receiving incoming calls at the test socket is definitely a fault and your provider will be able to address this for you.
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 9:42 AM
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Quote from: bbrazil I forgot to mention in my original post that when a telephone is connected to the new socket the phone does not ring when an incoming call comes in.
From your pictures the new extension is wired on to a secondary socket, so if that's wired to your outside junction box then that's why the phone doesn't ring.
If you call in BT it will cost you but it very much sounds like your wiring does need a good clean-up...
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 10:18 AM
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Quote I have two separate telephone lines / numbers coming into my house.
In that case surely there should be 2 master sockets. We only seem to have one...
It certainly sounds like the wiring is incorrect but, if we really have 2 lines here, could the fact that BB doesn't work on the new socket be due to it being wired to the 2nd line,which doesn't have BB active !!.
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Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 10:28 AM
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Quote from: bbrazil I have attached a photo of the master socket with the faceplate removed:
I have also attached a photo of the newly installed socket.
Is there anything visibly wrong with the wiring from this end?
They don't look good do they , here's my immediate observations for starters:
1. bare wires inserted in IDC connectors - wrong.
2. two bell wires in master connector 3 - from 1 cable!
3. but they then appear to go to 3 and 4 in the extension!
4. contacts in extension visibly very bent out of alignment
As I said earlier, don't pay him and get a proper professional to sort it out. Make sure they know you have 2 lines.
Anyone who knows about broadband wouldn't connect the bell wire at all.
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 10:53 PM
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thanks again for all of your advice. I've worked out what the engineer did. I've got two separate lines coming into my house each with a broadband connection. One from Plusnet and one from BT. The engineer has added a new socket to my second line which I rarely use. I dont have a phone connected to this line on a permanent basis. Obviously when ringing the phone number I expected the new socket to be connected to it did not ring. My Plusnet router obviously did not connect as the new socket is on a different number with BT broadband.
So, phones attached to this new socket do ring and I am also able to get my BT broadband working with my BT configured router.
I guess what this episode has highlighted is that the engineer has wired up the socket directly to the junction box which he shouldnt have done. It has also highlighted that the wiring in on my main telephone line needs attention.
Thanks,
Ben.
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 11:04 PM
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I get about 6000 kbps on my BT broadband whereas I get about 2000 kbps on my Plustnet broadband.
On my Plusnet connection settings page I see the following:
Estimated line speed:Not recorded (service activated before we introduced estimates).Current line speed: 2 Mb
Is Plusnet capping my speed or could the wiring issues on my Plusnet line be the cause of the speed difference?
Thanks,
Ben
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 11:08 PM
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Quote from: bbrazil could the wiring issues on my Plusnet line be the cause of the speed difference?
Almost certainly.
Post some stats from your router for analysis.
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
12-08-2011 11:23 PM
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Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
13-08-2011 9:07 AM
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That's usually down to a wiring problem (but not always).
Your SN margin is 9dB (usually 6) suggesting errors have been detected as well.
Your "connection speed" is probably the IP profile, it should be somewhat nearer the connection speed unless errors have been detected.....
Nuff sed?
(you know what you need to do)
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
13-08-2011 6:43 PM
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looks like I've got a bit of re-wiring to do.
Re: ADSL wont connect on newly installed telephone socket
15-08-2011 2:27 PM
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If you plug your Plusnet router in to the test socket we'd be able to retest this and check for an improvement.
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