A Few Internet Requests.
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Re: A Few Internet Requests.
08-05-2014 5:45 AM
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That is exactly what I predicted (above) !
Quote from: purleigh The problem here is much more likely to be a bad connection or interference, which will still be there when Max Premium has been removed.
I'm waiting for the OP to start going mental when interleaving automatically switches itself back on, to overcome the connection problem.
Even 'AndyH' in the very first reply in this thread (Reply #1) said -
Quote from: AndyH Probably worth looking at why interleaving is on in the first place - if you have an underlying issue with your line, then interleaving will return.
Quote from: MickHowes1 i had max premium a few months ago ON an interleavbed line and it still disconected..
Yes it would do ! - because you have a connection fault
Quote from: MickHowes1 so for any of your idiotic posts saying bla bla, you don't have a clue. so keep your trap [Censored]
WRONG ! - but that goes without saying
Quote from: MickHowes1 Well considering one of the guys that lives 4 doors down from me is an openreach engineer and ASSURES me there is no congestion at the exchange as of this morning then your blubbering on about [Censored]
WRONG ! - If there is one person I would trust about exchange problems, it is 'Chris Pettitt', and you're saying he's wrong.
Quote from: MickHowes1 the problem is that my line can only handle 0.37 upload and im getting 0.70 and its makingt me disconnect.
WRONG ! - Max Premium was working just fine and if anything would have made your connection better
Quote from: MickHowes1 take max premium off. KEEP interleaving off. want it done by thursday.. there is NO reason not to.
WRONG ! - because it won't make it any better
Then saving the best for last, Plusnet's expert 'Chris Pettitt' says -
Quote from: Chris I completely agree with purleigh on the latter points that he's made about checking your connection rather than moving from Max Premium.
LOL !
Re: A Few Internet Requests.
08-05-2014 7:41 PM
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Re: A Few Internet Requests.
08-05-2014 7:58 PM
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A link to plusnets page saying that they can change your upload from 448 to 832 at request http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/upload_speeds.shtml
Re: A Few Internet Requests.
08-05-2014 9:00 PM
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Quote from: Dhaos Seriously if your going to claim something as fact at least try googling first to make sure you right.
No no no, you don't understand !, his 'engineer' neighbour will tell him that all that technical mumbo jumbo stuff on Google is wrong !.
Similarly the neighbour thinks that Plusnet engineers don't know what they are talking about, and the broadband fairies will make it all better.
With a bit of luck those mean folk on the Plusnet forum will also stop asking for diagnostic information and trying to help.
What a stroke of luck -
Quote from: MickHowes1 I Dont have a connection fault at all.
It would appear that there are no problems now !, so hopefully this nonsense has ended.
At least there was a happy ending !
Re: A Few Internet Requests.
09-05-2014 3:29 PM
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Dick:red Avoidance of swear filter edited as per forum rule.
Re: A Few Internet Requests.
09-05-2014 3:57 PM
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If the answer to that is no, Max Premium is NOT causing your issues.
jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: A Few Internet Requests.
09-05-2014 4:22 PM
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The amount of data that can be transferred up or down, is determined by how many different modulated tones can reliably be exchanged between your modem and the exchange. The tones used for standard ADSL and Max Premium are the same (31 up and 224 down), and there is no increase in the frequency range of the tones used for Max Premium (as there would be if comparing with ADSL2+).
To your modem, normal ADSL is the same as Max Premium, EXCEPT that standard ADSL has an artificial upstream sync rate limit of 448Kbps applied to it by the exchange - so BT can charge extra for an uncapped upload speed.
The upstream sync limit on Max Premium (832Kbps) is also an artificial limit, as the the modem is capable of 1.3Mbps, and explains why modems will often report both the actual and maximum sync rate statistics. This excess bandwidth ensures that within reasonable conditions there should be sufficient tones to overcome most upstream line problems and provide the maximum stated speeds.
The modem has the same range of tones available to choose from for both standard ADSL and Max Premium, it is just that the quantity used is greater when the sync rate is higher.
If there are interference or attenuation problems with the line, the modem/exchange will choose not to allocate tones that can't be used reliably.
If the number of these unallocated tones becomes too great, then you might end up with a lower sync rate.
If the signal conditions on the line get worse, then further tones become unavailable, and the sync rate will be lowered until reliable communications can be maintained.
Your speed test results show that your Max Premium upload speed was 0.7Mbps, which suggests the sync rate was 832Kbps, and shows that you don't have a problem with the quality of the tones, therefore Max Premium will not be the cause of your disconnections.
This is a simplified explanation (for the technically challenged !), as each tone also can represent a different number of data bits depending on a number of additional factors.
Re: A Few Internet Requests.
09-05-2014 5:48 PM
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Re: A Few Internet Requests.
09-05-2014 5:53 PM
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jelv (a.k.a Spoon Whittler) Why I have left Plusnet (warning: long post!) Broadband: Andrews & Arnold Home::1 (FTTC 80/20) Line rental: Pulse 8 Home Line Rental (£14.40/month) Mobile: iD mobile (£4/month) |
Re: A Few Internet Requests.
09-05-2014 6:18 PM
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Re: A Few Internet Requests.
09-05-2014 6:31 PM
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Quote from: MickHowes1 the only disconnections i've had are supposedly only when i reset the router.. but my internet light doesnt ACTUALLY go off... it just flashes green rapidly for around thirty seconds and then resyncs
Oh shit! I can't believe that CSC staff still haven't been trained to not rely on the radius logs to tell if the user is suffering disconnections. Radius logs will only record a disconnect if the PPP session drops. If sync is lost and regained in less than around 15 seconds the PPP session is not lost and so not recorded in radius. There is a different place they have to look in their system to see all the sync events recorded by BT.
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Re: A Few Internet Requests.
10-05-2014 3:40 PM
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10-05-2014 4:38 PM
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10-05-2014 4:56 PM
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10-05-2014 5:48 PM
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