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Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

steveedavies — Fri, 01 Mar 2024 23:29:11 GMT

I've had to shift my home office down to the basement, so I only get about 2 bars on the wifi (normally download at 300mbs and decent upload but it's gone to about half of that).

I was going to get a powerline kit that can do 300mbs+, but I have 3 devices that I would like to to via ethernet. Do I need to buy another hub, or can I use my old Plusnet Hub One as a hub? Do you know if it can deal with 300mbs download? How would I set up my old hub to do this?

Thanks!!

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

Baldrick1 — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 08:56:20 GMT

@steveedavies

Do you know if it can deal with 300mbs download?

Very unlikely, read this for more information: https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Powerline-Unit-Performance/m-p/1607450#M85015. If possible run an Ethernet cable down to your office.

To turn a Hub One into an Access point see: https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Router/Using-a-2nd-Plusnet-Hub1-as-a-Wireless-Access-point/m-p/1385192#M1845, You need to plug this into the Powerline device/Ethernet cable using one of the Ethernet sockets NOT the WAN.

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

steveedavies — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 10:10:22 GMT

Thank you Baldrick!

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

Baldrick1 — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 10:24:41 GMT

@steveedavies

To clarify, the Hub One can handle 300Mbps as an access point/Ethernet switch, the choke will be the Powerline link and any wireless connections to either hub.

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

steveedavies — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 10:30:11 GMT

Gotcha, I just need to get a wire down like you said.

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

Baldrick1 — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 10:56:24 GMT

@steveedavies

Excellent solution, two more points, sorry if I’m stating the obvious..

You need to use CAT5e or better Ethernet cable.

If the easiest route is external then make sure that you use exterior grade cable. As I have recently learnt the hard way, the outer jacket of indoor cable disintegrates if directly exposed to UV..

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

steveedavies — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 11:14:41 GMT

It's definately internal but yes thanks for the reminder about CAT5e. I am going to need something like 65/70ft cable.

This might be the bad boy I need!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Snagless-Ethernet-Network-Compatible-Consoles-Grey/dp/B08DCQXRQD/ref=asc_df_B08DCQXRQD/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=606396941676&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9271348141390277589&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007423&hvtargid=pla-1720041189015&mcid=181fdcb0687f30c68aa9cacbccaa13d8&th=1

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

Ian06 — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 12:13:50 GMT

I am no expert but if it were me I would avoid "CCA - Copper Clad Aluminum (CCA) conductors" and use full copper cables... but I am sure more knowledgeable members will comment.

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

RealAleMadrid — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 13:40:01 GMT

@steveedavies Your link is for a patch cable ( a very long one ), these are flexible cables generally used to connect from wall mounted ethernet (RJ45) sockets to PCs or other devices and are usually a few metres long. As they are flexible they are not particularly robust but may well do the job.

The preferred method for a permanent ethernet link is to use structured cabling which has solid copper cores and is fixed with ethernet sockets as previously mentioned at each end with short patch cables to the devices.

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

Baldrick1 — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 13:47:26 GMT

@steveedavies

I agree with @Ian06, CCA (copper coated aluminium) cable should be avoided if possible. If it were me I would do the job 'properly' and permanently install unterminated cable between the two locations, terminating each end in a fixed Ethernet outlet. This is not difficult if you have some basic DIY skills. You then use flexible patch leads each end to connect to your Hubs.

This will cost you more and take longer to install but it makes a neat and permanent job of it. Do ask if you need further advice with this option.

Edit

My post crossed with that of @RealAleMadrid who is clearly of the same opinion.

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

MisterW — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 16:17:54 GMT

@steveedavies here you go , complete kit https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300879150144?itmmeta=01HQZYWG9KKCBJDQ9K306HW5GN&hash=item460dcb7c40:g:juwAAOSw4HVWEktH

I'd also get a network tester https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201534977269?itmmeta=01HQZZ2924X3KTFMWJJRRTFT04&hash=item2eec6bb4f5:g:Er8AAOSwxp9W2YrG

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

greygit1 — Sat, 02 Mar 2024 22:13:54 GMT

"outer jacket of indoor cable disintegrates if directly exposed to UV"

That's quite likely down to the plastics used for the sheathing. Some plastics are rather susceptble to degredation when exposed to parts of the EM spectrum that the human eye doesn't/cannot detect.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sheathing

Re: Getting decent Wifi in the basement Powerline and Plusnet Hub One

steveedavies — Fri, 08 Mar 2024 11:05:11 GMT

Thanks for all your help! Got it all set up and working - surprising how easy it was!