topic Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre in Tech Help - Software/Hardware etc

Setting up ATA after Porting out Phone Number

U4iK — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:13:08 GMT

How is your number porting going?

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

FlossyThePig — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:45:14 GMT

Signed up with A&A for VOIP. Last message was Porting Date: 23/06/2023, Porting Time: 10:00.

I set up my Grandstream HT812 when I started to use Sipgate so shouldn't take much to change the settings. Sipgate prices had got silly and I wasn't sure if they had a process that would port my number easily.

Fingers crossed for Friday morning.

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Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

U4iK — Thu, 22 Jun 2023 08:48:01 GMT

@FlossyThePig

Will keep my fingers crossed for you too. If all goes well I think I might finally go for the upgrade too and I might be back in touch for some settings for the grandstream.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

FlossyThePig — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:17:57 GMT

The number has been ported to A&A and I have spent a lot of time trying to get all the settings in my HT812 to get VOIP working. So far I can ring out but I can't ring in and the details on the A&A website are a bit sparse. The manuals on the Grandstream site are useful but when I tried to get the latest version there is a fault on the site.

I'll try again after the weekend.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

MisterW — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:33:49 GMT

So far I can ring out but I can't ring in

@FlossyThePig is it that calls in fail to connect or they just ring out and the phone doesnt actually ring ?

If its the latter, then you may need an RJ11 adaptor with a ring capacitor ( or just try with an old DSL filter as they have ring capacitors built-in )

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

FlossyThePig — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:13:57 GMT

My test phone worked fine when it was connected to the old landline.

The test phone is connected to to port one and the ethernet to the WAN socket. Calling my mobile phone connects and the number is recognised. Calling from my mobile I get a voice message that the phone is unavailable, try later.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

MisterW — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:31:29 GMT

In that case you probably need someone with more experience of the HT812.

If you log in to the A & A control panel, does your HT812 show as registered ?

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

Michael_0 — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:45:49 GMT

I had an issue very similar to this and, although I'm using the HT801, I thought it worth mentioning just in case. On the FXS PORT page there is a box for the Primary SIP Server which A&A indicates should be voiceless.aa.net.uk followed by boxes for Proxy Servers (I left these blank) but just after these is a box for From Domain which the comment after it states is optional. It wasn't for me. Hopefully, this screenshot will render in a readable manner. YMMV but it worked for me 😀

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

Michael_0 — Sun, 25 Jun 2023 18:58:44 GMT

I should add that as soon as that 'optional' value was applied, the status page changed from Not Registered to Registered and the attached phone could receive calls.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

FlossyThePig — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:38:18 GMT

I entered voiceless.aa.net.uk in the From Domain box, clicked Apply and rebooted. I still couldn't call the landline and as it was getting late I gave up. As my Smart meter IHD was was acting strangely I turned off a lot of things including the HT812 and went to bed.

The next day I thought I would give it another try and powered up the HT812. Without logging on I gave it a quick test and I could make and receive calls.

Next task, for me, is to document all the settings.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

peterhr — Tue, 27 Jun 2023 12:29:55 GMT

Well, I have my 100mbs zen fibre installed. The ONT is not as conveniently located as the copper connection for the equipment basically due to having stuff built than means the fibre couldn't take the same run. Tested out with thier fritzbox then configured and connected the Wan2 port on the draytek 2860 speed test gave me 165Mbs ... until I unplugged the VDSĹ.

Now using a pair of adaptors from amazon to put the ONT power and data down the same CAT5e to where the router is.

I want to keep the Draytek since I run the home lan, a second lan for IOT devices (I don't expect manufacturers to keep the Linux they run secure), and a guest network.

I moved the Grandstream HT812 from Plusnet to Zen (it's on legacy sipgate basic/starter), it just worked until unplugged but then wouldn't reconnect to zipgate.

Couldn't find the admin password for the HT812, so reset it to factory - then immediately found the the password in BitWarden.

Reconfigured the HT812 just following the sipgate instructions and it just works ... I must have had to do something extra for plusnet.

My landline number will port next week, will be 25+ years of plusnet customer history gone when they close the account.

I would have stayed with plusnet for fibre if there has been a way to port the number to SIP / Digital Voice without closing the account - huge shame they created the catch 22 situation.

Why Zen?, I hope to avoid the BT annual price hike escalator.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

U4iK — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:05:26 GMT

@FlossyThePig

Glad to see the grandstream is working not looking forward to getting one and setting it up.

When you placed your fttp order when did you contact A&A about the number port, did you order it straight away and were able to pick the transfer date for after the fttp installation?

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

FlossyThePig — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 22:31:09 GMT

@U4iK wrote:

When you placed your fttp order when did you contact A&A about the number port, did you order it straight away and were able to pick the transfer date for after the fttp installation?

My upgrade to FTTP was on 16/06/23 and I signed up for A&A VOIP on 18/06/23. Part of the process asked if I wanted to port my number and prompted for the leaving ISP, which was PN. On 19/06/23 I got an email telling me the port would take place on 23/06/23, which it did.

Quite simple really, apart from setting up the HT812.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

TobyDSC — Tue, 01 Aug 2023 16:43:05 GMT

Thank you very much for this.

We're in exactly this situation with the FTTP booked for 31 August and A&A advising to book the number port a few days ahead of this, so this now all makes sense.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

U4iK — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 02:01:56 GMT

Just wanted to add to this that I am another successful FTTP install and number port out to A&A.

Once my FTTP was installed and working the openreach engineer removed the original copper phone line cable. That night I started the number port with A&A.

They got back to me with a port date for one week after the FTTP install and number ported that day with no issues. Decided we were long overdue new house phones so bought a gigaset C570 premium phone and N300A base station package and configured it with no issues.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:21:11 GMT

I am currently considering porting my long held landline number to A&A VoIP, but unfortunately the phone number I want to port goes through periods of receiving dozens of SPAM marketing calls in a day (the record was 49 in one day) - but fortunately are 99% blocked by an inline trueCall call blocker so aren't much of a nuisance.

For those of you that have successfully ported to A&A and have access to the A&A VoIP control panel, is there any 'blacklist' facility to block known unsolicited callers ?.

I have searched the A&A help pages but could only find mention of an "Allow list", and "anonymous call reject".

It would be a nightmare if I moved to VoIP and started having the phone ringing up to 50 times day from unwanted callers.

TIA

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

Baldrick1 — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:31:12 GMT

@Anonymous

I would assume that if you use an ATA with the A&A service then your existing BT phone call blocker will work. I have tried a BT 8500 call blocker phone plugged in to a Grandstream HT812 and can confirm that caller ID works, so assume that all will be well.

Do please advise if you find that this is not the case.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:49:02 GMT

I have a Gigaset N300A (that can simultaneously do both landline and up to 6 SIP accounts) , so was hoping to go VoIP only.

@Baldrick1 - Thanks for the suggestion, I guess that adding an additional ATA to facilitate powering the trueCall and using the Gigaset N300A in landline mode has the possibility of working.

If A&A don't have any sort of VoIP blacklisting, my second choice would be Voipfone who do comprehensive Call Barring

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

Baldrick1 — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 11:53:16 GMT

@TobyDSC
Looking at your link you use a different call blocking set up to me. Mine is built in to the mains powered base unit.
Many years ago I had one of these in-line call blockers. This was powered from the incoming telephone line. I don’t know if they now have a separate power supply. Anyway, my old one put a load on the line that presented itself as an impedance fault when diagnosing a broadband fault. I don’t know whether an ATA would be capable of powering one that was powered from the line.

Re: Unable to port landline number after signing up to Full Fibre

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Aug 2023 12:08:00 GMT

Yes my call blocker IS powered from the incoming phone line, and mine shows as a 'loop rectified' fault on broadband line tests but doesn't have any negative influence on my VDSL line stats.