topic Re: VPN on Hub ONE in Tech Help - Software/Hardware etc

VPN on Hub ONE

Shellart — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 15:28:52 GMT

Hi, can someone tell me if it's possible set up a VPN on my Plusnet Hub One Router? New to all this and want to cover all devices connecting through my Network Connection ie Firestick, Smart TVs x 4, PC, Laptops x 2, Xbox x 2 and 4 mobile phones. Is this possible, if not what's the best way to cover all of them and can someone point me in the right direction please?

Thanks

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

Baldrick1 — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 15:41:07 GMT

@Shellart Welcome to the forum.

Sorry but you can't install VPN on a Plusnet device. There's nothing stopping you from buying a third party ADSL/VDSL modem/router and installing a VPN on that. The setting instructions for third party devices is here https://www.plus.net/help/broadband/broadband-connection-settings/

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

7up — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 20:44:04 GMT

IF you have a windows PC you can set it up to accept incoming VPN connections - you then need to setup the port forwarding in the hubone. Come back to me if you want help with that.

Of course you then need to leave the PC running however it will act as your endpoint into your network when connecting from outside the network.

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

bill888 — Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:35:39 GMT

fwiw, if you go down the new router option, it could get very expensive.

Consider what VPN protocol you wish to use. Nord for example no longer supports PPTP or L2TP

https://www.expressvpn.com/support/vpn-setup/manual-config-for-tp-link-router-with-l2tp/?offer=3monthsfree&offer_code=3c6hjoor69&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxael-LSB7AIVms13Ch0LzgPAEAAYASAAEgLJnfD_BwE

OpenVPN requires a router with powerful processor. I can't think of any VDSL modem router which offers Openvpn client at decent speed. The ageing Asus DSL-AC68u may be only good for 16 mbps if it has a dated MIPS processor.

If you keep the Plusnet hub and buy a new router to plug into it. £35 RT-AC51u can offer 12 mbps openvpn speeds. £170 RT-AC86u can handle up to 70 mbps apparently out of the box.

For L2TP protocol, most routers (without a modem) from Asus, Dlink, Linksys, Netgear, Tplink etc are likely to work but don't quote me. Example for ExpressVPN with a TPlink Archer C7. You'll get much faster vpn speeds than with openvpn on same router. (Sorry, I can't quote a figure for C7 for L2TP)

https://www.expressvpn.com/support/vpn-setup/manual-config-for-tp-link-router-with-l2tp/

Then there is running DDWRT and OpenWrt firmware on compatible routers, but that opens up a whole new can of worms....such as wifi compatibility. An Archer C7 is only good for around 16 mbps openvpn speeds on OpenWrt btw.

Some websites and streaming services can block VPNs too if detected.

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

VileReynard — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 22:27:27 GMT

You might be able to use a Raspberry Pi as a VPN server.

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

bill888 — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 02:30:02 GMT

Yes, a Raspberry Pi 4 with USB3 gigabit ethernet adapter (ethernet ports required for WAN and LAN) is good for 100 mbps openvpn speeds on OpenWrt apparently..

I think I've read one blog for how to set up openvpn gateway with just single ethernet port using Raspberry PI OS with previous versions of RPi hardware. I would think it may work with RPi4 too.

A new RPi4 with case, power supply and memory card would probably cost upto £60.

There is also the new Wireguard VPN protocol but not all VPN providers offer it. I've seen 40 mbps speeds through HH5A (Hub One) with OpenWrt on my 55/10mb FTTC connection. That's much faster than 9 mbps with openvpn protocol. However Wireguard is still in its 'infancy'., and there is room for improvement in how it is implemented in OpenWrt when compared to established OpenVPN in OpenWrt.

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

jamesaharrusinu — Sun, 08 Jan 2023 08:10:25 GMT

This can't be correct. One of the benefits of getting a Plusnet statis IP address is that you can use the router's vpn software.

From Plusnet page:

Static IP

A permanent Internet IP address that's assigned to you - and only you. With a static IP you can:

Host websites or mail servers
Start webcasting
Connect with others online using VPN

Why would you offer this if it's false? I'm sure trading standards would like to hear about that.

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

MisterW — Sun, 08 Jan 2023 09:11:27 GMT

But it doesn't say that any of those are available from the Hub. They are available with a static ip providing you have equipment that provides those functions e.g a Web server to host Web sites

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

bobpullen — Sun, 08 Jan 2023 10:38:23 GMT

@bill888 wrote:
A new RPi4 with case, power supply and memory card would probably cost upto £60.

I'm guessing it's been a while since you looked

Due to global component shortages etc. Pi's have been in a lot of demand. Pi4's are currently selling for north of £100 on eBay, in many instances without a case or SD card. I sold a couple of 3b's recently for over £60 a piece.

Edit: ignore me, just realised the date of the post I've quoted

Re: VPN on Hub ONE

VileReynard — Sun, 08 Jan 2023 12:09:17 GMT

I can run "software" VPN from Linux - starting it simply reconfigures my network connection.

I don't have a static IP address or a special kind of router.

I presume that you could just use any Pi as a proxy network interface [ assuming you can find software that will run on a Pi ].

BTW I use protonmail.com to get a free VPN service + encrypted mail + cloud storage.

[ The free version has some big limitations, but is sufficient for me ].

It works for Linux and presumably for Windows et al.

I imagine that when Plusnet say you need a fixed IP for a VPN, they mean one that is self-implemented, such as one between home and work.