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    <title>topic Re: Plusnet Hub One in Tech Help - Software/Hardware etc</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273819#M68654</link>
    <description>I don't really understand why they didn't get the 5604n as the base for the router (that will be released after the hub 6 which is effectively going to be the exact same router) &lt;BR /&gt;the colour change means nothing (white plastic is cheaper than black or grey) the hardware is the key element, its already been said that this device is the hub 5A in a cheaper cover with a few hardware tweaks but the same problems are going to pop from it as well (not g-fast compliant) clearly this was a management decision based on what was available to vary the supply contract on the 2704's, which having been released have proved woefully inadequate and sagemcom having a nice large pile of hub 5 chips ready to use and BT no longer wanting them as there about to start pushing the hub 6 to customers but have been holding off on the big announcement until their acquisition of EE has been finalised, I guess if they have told sagemcom to bin their hub5 chips then giving them to another company would make sense especially if that happens to be a subsidiary that cant afford to say no given the price and it fitting the bill of &amp;nbsp;"does all that the lowest common denominator requires" (I explained what that was in the no more pc thread) &lt;BR /&gt;for all the things I dislike about the homehub series of routers they do at the very least tend to just unbox connect switch on and "just work" just like an electric kettle has done for the last 20 years unless its faulty ....which makes them perfect for a lot of consumers, and not so much for the generally more vocal online group that needs those missing features because they don't fall into the lowest common denominator bracket ......&lt;BR /&gt;edit;&lt;BR /&gt;lol adi, I was posting at the same time, I suppose my earlier post was perhaps a bit harsh but not unjustified but also not fully explained as in I understand where they are coming from but I believe they made another bo-bo", plusnet may not see that they require g-fast to be fully operational now but realistically by the end of 2016 we will have ipv6 and g-fast nationwide, not fully supporting it will be a huge problem then granted mostly it will be for consumers needing to get themselves a new router (those mass market ones who wont even understand the problem) and plusnet will likey have moved over to some other device, but unless there branching out into LTE services the hub6 probably wont be it.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:04:12 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>nanotm</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-11-12T09:04:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273762#M68597</link>
      <description>Is this a modem router.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/hardware/hub-one-setup.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/hardware/hub-one-setup.shtml&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:09:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273762#M68597</guid>
      <dc:creator>anniesboy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:09:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273763#M68598</link>
      <description>It is indeed an all-in-one Fibre modem/router. Only launched earlier today.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:11:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273763#M68598</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:11:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273764#M68599</link>
      <description>Any technical details available (for those interested)?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:20:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273764#M68599</guid>
      <dc:creator>w23</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:20:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273765#M68600</link>
      <description>Looks like it's a re-badged HH5..?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:22:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273765#M68600</guid>
      <dc:creator>DamBuilder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:22:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273766#M68601</link>
      <description>Does look a bit HH5 ish, doesn't it...</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:24:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273766#M68601</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:24:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273767#M68602</link>
      <description>Shape and accessories seem to match but then, would it be a 5A or 5B (or random mix of both)?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:26:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273767#M68602</guid>
      <dc:creator>w23</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:26:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273768#M68603</link>
      <description>I wonder if its a crippled HH5 - or not.&lt;BR /&gt;Plusnet don't have a good record on "own brand" routers.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:28:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273768#M68603</guid>
      <dc:creator>VileReynard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:28:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273769#M68604</link>
      <description>So self install possible? &lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273769#M68604</guid>
      <dc:creator>anniesboy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:35:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273770#M68605</link>
      <description>It's a 4 port (all Gigabit) VDSL router, with a/n/ac wireless. It'll be sent to new customers signing up to fibre from today and will mean an engineer is not sent as part of the fibre install. &amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273770#M68605</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:35:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273771#M68606</link>
      <description>so by default it's now a self-install FTTC product ?&lt;BR /&gt;is one of the gigabit LAN ports used to connect to the master socket? or does it have a separate DSL socket?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273771#M68606</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:38:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273772#M68607</link>
      <description>For new customers yes, upgrades at the moment still require an engineer and will receive the Hub Zero.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:40:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273772#M68607</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:40:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273773#M68608</link>
      <description>why the difference?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:42:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273773#M68608</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:42:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273774#M68609</link>
      <description>It's simply the way we've decided to develop these changes.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:43:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273774#M68609</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:43:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273775#M68610</link>
      <description>so, as usual, existing customers get brushed under the carpet in favour of the chase for new customers.&lt;BR /&gt;seeing as you're giving away free internet these days, maybe you should remember the customers who are actually paying you for internet. remember those idiots?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:46:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273775#M68610</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:46:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273776#M68611</link>
      <description>Sorry that you're not happy but that's the decision that's been made. I'm hopeful that it won't be too long before existing customers get this too.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:48:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273776#M68611</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:48:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273777#M68612</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: w23&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Shape and accessories seem to match but then, would it be a 5A or 5B (or random mix of both)?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A (subject to change of course).</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:51:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273777#M68612</guid>
      <dc:creator>bobpullen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:51:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273778#M68613</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: Chris&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Sorry that you're not happy but that's the decision that's been made. I'm hopeful that it won't be too long before existing customers get this too.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Seems like existing customers are seen as second class on this ( getting rid of old stock), already paying PN money,&amp;nbsp; and then most likely need to take time off work if they want to upgrade to fibre,&amp;nbsp; but no such issue for new customers. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards &lt;BR /&gt;Mike</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:55:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273778#M68613</guid>
      <dc:creator>ITWorks</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:55:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273779#M68614</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;( getting rid of old stock),&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That's not the reason at all, the Hub Zero will continue to be supplied on ADSL connections.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:00:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273779#M68614</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T12:00:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273780#M68615</link>
      <description>Okay,&amp;nbsp; getting&amp;nbsp; rid of old stock which has the fibre firmware?,&amp;nbsp; So what is the reason?, do you think it is fair exsiting paying customers will most likely have to take time off work and new ones won't? &lt;BR /&gt;Regards &lt;BR /&gt;Mike</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:02:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273780#M68615</guid>
      <dc:creator>ITWorks</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T12:02:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273781#M68616</link>
      <description>It's a business decision based on a number of factors, that I'm not going to discuss. I appreciate that you're not happy that this hasn't been launched for existing customers too, but surely launching it at all is a good thing?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:04:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273781#M68616</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T12:04:30Z</dc:date>
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