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    <title>topic Re: Plusnet Hub One in Tech Help - Software/Hardware etc</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273807#M68642</link>
    <description>Who on earth made this stupid decision. &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":confused_face:"&gt;😕&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; The HH5A is now about the only modem router that isnt g.inp compatible.&amp;nbsp; I'm seriously beginning to think that who ever makes the decisions on which router to provide doesn't have half a clue. &lt;BR /&gt;Where does the usergroup stand on this these days.&amp;nbsp; Are they even consulted for beta testing.&amp;nbsp;  Regardless or not I would have been playing up merry hell over such a backward decision.&lt;BR /&gt;Oh well plusnet, Im sad to say this is another nail in the coffin of bargain basement ISP.&amp;nbsp;  Oh things may look good for getting new users in, but theres nothing now showing you care about existing customers.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;BR /&gt;Btw dont say you weren't warned if people on longer lines moan about worse performance than if they were with 'x', 'y' or 'z' isp... purely because said ISP will supply a better modem.&amp;nbsp; &lt;BR /&gt;What is the point in Openreach trying to release g.inp if Plusnet provide routers that are known to not be fully compatible with it.&amp;nbsp; &lt;BR /&gt;Christ its bad enough that a year ago you were still supplying the old TG582n's, then you went down a step with the zero hub,&amp;nbsp;  now you go down a further step and release further inferior modem/routers.&amp;nbsp; :no:&lt;BR /&gt;Bangs head on a brick wall.&amp;nbsp; Funny enough I was speaking to one of the ex-CEOs of Plusnet just the other day... and off his own back he said how Plusnet made a muck of things by not taking note of the Usergroup.&amp;nbsp; Said CEO turned PN around when he started listening.&amp;nbsp; Current CEO seems to be on path of destroying Plusnet.&amp;nbsp; No doubt he will have moved on by the time it all goes bad, because at the current time PN is riding on previous years CS support.&amp;nbsp;  Things are going downhill since, and word &lt;B&gt;will&lt;/B&gt; catch up in the open community.&amp;nbsp; Mark my words - been there, seen it all before. &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@6BD5E1FD9194A889D807C8E641344CF1/images/emoticons/sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:16:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>kitz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-11-11T20:16:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273762#M68597</link>
      <description>Is this a modem router.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/hardware/hub-one-setup.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/hardware/hub-one-setup.shtml&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:09:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273762#M68597</guid>
      <dc:creator>anniesboy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:09:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273763#M68598</link>
      <description>It is indeed an all-in-one Fibre modem/router. Only launched earlier today.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:11:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273763#M68598</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:11:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273764#M68599</link>
      <description>Any technical details available (for those interested)?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:20:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273764#M68599</guid>
      <dc:creator>w23</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:20:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273765#M68600</link>
      <description>Looks like it's a re-badged HH5..?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:22:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273765#M68600</guid>
      <dc:creator>DamBuilder</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:22:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273766#M68601</link>
      <description>Does look a bit HH5 ish, doesn't it...</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:24:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273766#M68601</guid>
      <dc:creator>MisterW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:24:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273767#M68602</link>
      <description>Shape and accessories seem to match but then, would it be a 5A or 5B (or random mix of both)?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:26:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273767#M68602</guid>
      <dc:creator>w23</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:26:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273768#M68603</link>
      <description>I wonder if its a crippled HH5 - or not.&lt;BR /&gt;Plusnet don't have a good record on "own brand" routers.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:28:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273768#M68603</guid>
      <dc:creator>VileReynard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:28:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273769#M68604</link>
      <description>So self install possible? &lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273769#M68604</guid>
      <dc:creator>anniesboy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:35:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273770#M68605</link>
      <description>It's a 4 port (all Gigabit) VDSL router, with a/n/ac wireless. It'll be sent to new customers signing up to fibre from today and will mean an engineer is not sent as part of the fibre install. &amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273770#M68605</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:35:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273771#M68606</link>
      <description>so by default it's now a self-install FTTC product ?&lt;BR /&gt;is one of the gigabit LAN ports used to connect to the master socket? or does it have a separate DSL socket?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273771#M68606</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:38:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273772#M68607</link>
      <description>For new customers yes, upgrades at the moment still require an engineer and will receive the Hub Zero.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:40:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273772#M68607</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:40:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273773#M68608</link>
      <description>why the difference?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:42:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273773#M68608</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:42:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273774#M68609</link>
      <description>It's simply the way we've decided to develop these changes.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:43:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273774#M68609</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:43:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273775#M68610</link>
      <description>so, as usual, existing customers get brushed under the carpet in favour of the chase for new customers.&lt;BR /&gt;seeing as you're giving away free internet these days, maybe you should remember the customers who are actually paying you for internet. remember those idiots?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:46:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273775#M68610</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:46:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273776#M68611</link>
      <description>Sorry that you're not happy but that's the decision that's been made. I'm hopeful that it won't be too long before existing customers get this too.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:48:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273776#M68611</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:48:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273777#M68612</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: w23&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Shape and accessories seem to match but then, would it be a 5A or 5B (or random mix of both)?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;A (subject to change of course).</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:51:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273777#M68612</guid>
      <dc:creator>bobpullen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:51:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273778#M68613</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: Chris&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Sorry that you're not happy but that's the decision that's been made. I'm hopeful that it won't be too long before existing customers get this too.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Seems like existing customers are seen as second class on this ( getting rid of old stock), already paying PN money,&amp;nbsp; and then most likely need to take time off work if they want to upgrade to fibre,&amp;nbsp; but no such issue for new customers. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards &lt;BR /&gt;Mike</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:55:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273778#M68613</guid>
      <dc:creator>ITWorks</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T11:55:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273779#M68614</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;( getting rid of old stock),&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;That's not the reason at all, the Hub Zero will continue to be supplied on ADSL connections.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:00:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273779#M68614</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T12:00:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273780#M68615</link>
      <description>Okay,&amp;nbsp; getting&amp;nbsp; rid of old stock which has the fibre firmware?,&amp;nbsp; So what is the reason?, do you think it is fair exsiting paying customers will most likely have to take time off work and new ones won't? &lt;BR /&gt;Regards &lt;BR /&gt;Mike</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:02:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273780#M68615</guid>
      <dc:creator>ITWorks</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T12:02:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Plusnet Hub One</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273781#M68616</link>
      <description>It's a business decision based on a number of factors, that I'm not going to discuss. I appreciate that you're not happy that this hasn't been launched for existing customers too, but surely launching it at all is a good thing?&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:04:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Tech-Help-Software-Hardware-etc/Plusnet-Hub-One/m-p/1273781#M68616</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-11-11T12:04:30Z</dc:date>
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