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Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

carlwalters — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:30:11 GMT

I'd like to be able to limit WiFi access during certain times of the day (so that the children can concentrate on homework for example).
So, for example, I'd like to prevent some devices (iPods, Kindles based on MAC address or IP address) having WiFi access between say 20:00 and 08:00.
Is something like this possible? I can't seem to see anything on the router's admin page which would allow this.
Many thanks in advance.
Carl

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

pwatson — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:40:50 GMT

You could try the instructions here:
http://www.npr.me.uk/accesscontrol.html
Don't know how current they are, but npr is a customer and frequents these forums...

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

carlwalters — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:51:25 GMT

thanks pwatson :).
Looks like I'm going to have to roll up my sleeves and get down and dirty with telnet.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

ejs — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:25:07 GMT

I think it can be done from the router admin web pages if you have the version 10.2 firmware.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

davidg52 — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:30:39 GMT

Hi
Give this a try
Log into your router GUI, select home network on left hand side, then access control and then under Device Access Scheduler select the device you wish to restrict from the drop down box. Click add then under Current scheduled devices click edit which then takes you Device Access Editor and then select the time you want the restriction.
This is for TG582n
Hope this helps.
Dave

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

carlwalters — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:43:51 GMT

Hi Dave,
I don't seem to have this option available under Home Network see screenshot
The router information shows

Product Name: TG582n
Serial Number: <snip>
Software Release: 8.C.M.0
jim:green serial number removed mod:end

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

davidg52 — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:55:05 GMT

Hi
Sorry about that, mine is software release 10.2.5.2.FO so it looks like you may have to update the firmware.
Dave

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

carlwalters — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 20:33:10 GMT

Just had a look for updating the firmware - doesn't seem to be possible from Linux systems unfortunately.
I might have to find another way around it.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

MJN — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:50:07 GMT

I thought the firmware update was via the GUI? If so, it shouldn't matter what OS you're using.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

RPMozley — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 23:11:00 GMT

The Technicolor firmware update flasher is windows only I'm afraid. Not possible from the GUI as there's not enough memory with these model variants.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

HPsauce — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 23:28:13 GMT

I'm sure that in another thread a member of PN staff said they could do it remotely. Ask in a ticket?

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

Kremmen — Mon, 12 Jan 2015 05:43:29 GMT

Not with the Technicolor via the menu but I noted that my new Asus RT-N66U has a WiFi timer in just the way you want. I thought that was aimed at securing it overnight but your scenario sounds better.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

carlwalters — Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:11:43 GMT

Quote from: RPMozley
The Technicolor firmware update flasher is windows only I'm afraid. Not possible from the GUI as there's not enough memory with these model variants.

Yes, that's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the confirmation RPMozley.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

carlwalters — Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:12:45 GMT

Quote from: HPsauce
I'm sure that in another thread a member of PN staff said they could do it remotely. Ask in a ticket?

That's a thought HPSauce. I'll try and find out how to ask for that.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

MisterW — Mon, 12 Jan 2015 08:42:41 GMT

It can definitely be done remotely by PN, I'd guess that once the PN CRT staff see this thread they will offer to do it for you. It IS possible to update manually from Linux but it's pretty techy!
Updating uses TFTP, see these posts http://wiki.aa.org.uk/Router_-_TG582N_-_Firmware_and_Factory_Reset#Firmware_Upgrade_via_your_TFTP_server & http://www.jonathandavis.me.uk/2013/12/flashing-generic-firmware-on-a-technicolor-tg582n/

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

carlwalters — Mon, 12 Jan 2015 08:55:02 GMT

Quote from: MisterW
It can definitely be done remotely by PN, I'd guess that once the PN CRT staff see this thread they will offer to do it for you. It IS possible to update manually from Linux but it's pretty techy!
Updating uses TFTP, see these posts http://wiki.aa.org.uk/Router_-_TG582N_-_Firmware_and_Factory_Reset#Firmware_Upgrade_via_your_TFTP_server & http://www.jonathandavis.me.uk/2013/12/flashing-generic-firmware-on-a-technicolor-tg582n/

I spoke to Customer Services on the 0800 number and they pointed me at http://products.plus-payh.co.uk/firmware/
and according to a post by Mat Turner here http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,114824.0.html
the 10.2.5.2 firmware for the FTTC router has features which include

Ability to switch to ADSL mode

A new dashboard at 192.168.1.254 viewable without logging in

IPv6 support (my IPv6 In IPv4 tunnel tutorial is here. http://community.plus.net...x.php/topic,106578.0.html)

Wifi auto channel selection - based on actual utilisation of each channel

Improved manual setup wizard

Wifi on/off scheduling

Pressing the enter key on the login page now logs you on

Better intercept pages if the WAN is down

The Wifi on/off scheduling seems to be what I'm after so hopefully someone at PN CRT will be able to remotely update me.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

Anotherone — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:13:56 GMT

I would suggest you ask for an upgrade to the 10.2.5.2.EO firmware for the time being. I don't know how well proved the firmware version FO is or what other changes have been made to add the "extra" feature in the FO firmware. You will no doubt get told the FO firmware is fully approved. But the announcement of it was low key and there has been little feedback here. See http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,121504.0.html
PS. Don't post your serial number in the public domain for security reasons.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

ejs — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 13:02:01 GMT

There are very few differences between EO and FO, and they are only in the default config and setup webpages. All of the executable programs, drivers, libraries etc. within the firmware are identical. One of the config changes is enabling gracefulrestart for the PPP connection, and another is IGMP related for Plusnet TV.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

Anotherone — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 13:33:27 GMT

Here we go again, making statements about what the changes are without any evidence of how it may have affected stability or otherwise. The EO firmware is well established and as I've already commented there is little feedback from users on the FO firmware, simple as that. Don't try to make it look any more than that.

Re: Technicolor TG582n FTTC - Limiting WiFi Access

ejs — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:42:55 GMT

They also fixed the typo "cxurrently" on the wlan_device.lp page.