topic Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked in Plusnet Feedback

Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Oldjim — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:03:08 GMT

As traffic prioritisation is no more how about setting the number to the product maximum and block any action from the delta reports which would stop the occasional problem where it isn't updated when the sync speed increases

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Townman — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:56:00 GMT

@Oldjim,

TP is only "no more" for RESIDENTIAL UNLIMITED products. There remains legacy residential measured products and business products, for which I believe TP is still applied.

However, your question might be mute for other reasons - I have been advised that where users are connected to the "new" network, the Plusnet profile (current speed) has ZERO impact on data speeds.

What is not clear (at least to me) is who still is not connected to the new network? I am not aware if fixed IP address users have been moved over and I have a nagging memory that 20CN users cannot be moved over. So their experience would still be governed by the PN profile.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Chris — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:17:51 GMT

As @Townman says, the traffic management is still in place for some accounts so removing the whole thing at the moment isn't something we can do.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Townman — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 15:15:56 GMT

@Chris,

Would you care to comment on the rest of my post please, about the residual applicability of the Current Speed profile in the context of the new network?

Thanks.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Chris — Wed, 02 Aug 2017 15:21:08 GMT

What is not clear (at least to me) is who still is not connected to the new network? I am not aware if fixed IP address users have been moved over and I have a nagging memory that 20CN users cannot be moved over. So their experience would still be governed by the PN profile.

I'm not sure about who is/isn't on the new network now, however the profile is still applicable for 20CN customers, and IIRC those with static IP addresses still utilise that too.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Townman — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 07:19:26 GMT

@Chris,

Thank you for clarification of my half-baked-memory.

Current Speed still has bearing on 20CN and fixed IP customers, but may be not for the reason I thought!

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

rongtw — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:13:52 GMT

a question ,

why are 20CN and fixed IP not on the new network ? which i thought was brought in to improve PN,s network

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Townman — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 09:29:02 GMT

@rongtw,

That is a question which fits in the middle of stuff I'm asking about elsewhere.

In the case of fixed IP addresses, these are connected with the username and therefore have to be handled within the Plusnet network (RAS services). As I understand it for new network users, the RAS is performed locally to the user and from there internet connectivity can completely avoid the PN data centre for some connectivity.

As for 20CN I can only guess that they do not have access to the 'local' RAS services...

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

chenks76 — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 11:52:09 GMT

@rongtw wrote:

a question ,

why are 20CN and fixed IP not on the new network ? which i thought was brought in to improve PN,s network

aren't they?

i have a static IP and i'm on the new network.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

pjmarsh — Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:10:16 GMT

My understanding of it (from way back towards the start of moving people), was that I (with a static IP) was moved to the new network, but I'm tunneled back to the Plusnet gateways (only certain ones though) for authentication and assignment of IP Address.

To also back that up, if I remember correctly the move to the new network was done by a cease order. Therefore to move from the new network back to the old network would also need that. For someone on the new network with a dynamic IP and then requesting a static IP, this doesn't happen. Likewise the same for someone removing a static IP.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Townman — Sun, 06 Aug 2017 11:30:13 GMT

Right folks - I have received a definitive answer on this.

The "old" network does not exist any more: for those of us with fixed IP addresses our connections are tunnelled through to PN's BNG gateways, which is where the "current speed" profiles kick in.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Oldjim — Sun, 06 Aug 2017 11:41:32 GMT

I assume - except for 20CN exchanges

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Gandalf — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 13:32:22 GMT

Why are static IP connections routed through L2TP?
Due a limitation in the way WBMC Dedicated works, it's a lot easier for us to do the assignment of static IPs ourselves. This also makes it easier for housemoves and product changes while keeping the same IP address.

Why aren't IPStream connections moved over to WBMC Dedicated?
We made a decision not to implement this as it was a considerable amount of work for a decreasing number of users as the 20 to 21CN migrations continue. Furthermore, there won't be any real benefit to customers due to the lower line speeds.

More information about set up of the network can be seen here:
https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Traffic-Prioritisation-and-20CN/m-p/1465591#M78095

I hope this helps explain things.

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

chenks76 — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 13:46:29 GMT

so with the routing via L2TP, is there a disadvantage to having a static IP compared to those on dynamic?

Re: Plusnet Current Line Speed or equivalent should be junked

Kelly — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 14:53:40 GMT

Nothing significant to the user.