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    <title>topic Contracting out BTOR work in Plusnet Feedback</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439100#M77102</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Please stop contracting out when the customer has paid for Openreach to come out. Your contractor's&amp;nbsp;are, and always have been, incompetent, bone-idle bodge artists.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@2A8D2AD513FFC63E2C26FA4F3B04DB20/images/emoticons/tickedoff.gif" alt="Ticked_off" title="Ticked_off" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 14:17:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>southerner</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-05-12T14:17:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439100#M77102</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Please stop contracting out when the customer has paid for Openreach to come out. Your contractor's&amp;nbsp;are, and always have been, incompetent, bone-idle bodge artists.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@2A8D2AD513FFC63E2C26FA4F3B04DB20/images/emoticons/tickedoff.gif" alt="Ticked_off" title="Ticked_off" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 14:17:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>southerner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T14:17:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439102#M77103</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I think you'll find that it's Open Reach themselves that are doing the contracting and not Plusnet, I guess they (Open Reach) have a lot of work to do which in itself is worrying!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 14:37:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439102#M77103</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T14:37:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439107#M77104</link>
      <description>It's Openreach contracting out the work not Plusnet...</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 14:27:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439107#M77104</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveyH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T14:27:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439112#M77105</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is that so? Well, they're giving themselves a bad name using who they do.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 14:30:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439112#M77105</guid>
      <dc:creator>southerner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T14:30:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439118#M77106</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In this context who are 'they'? I assume you're referring to Open Reach?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 14:38:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439118#M77106</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T14:38:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439141#M77107</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;i believe BT/OR use 3 outside contractors&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kelly Communications &lt;A title="Kelly Communications" href="http://www.kelly.co.uk/careers/view-roles" target="_blank"&gt;Kelly Communications&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; MJ Quinn &lt;A title="MJ Quinn" href="http://www.mjquinn.co.uk/careers" target="_blank"&gt;MJ Quinn&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; Carillion Telent – &lt;A title="Telent" href="http://www.telent.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Telent&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 15:24:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439141#M77107</guid>
      <dc:creator>rongtw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T15:24:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439144#M77109</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Right. &amp;amp; the top of that list is what I seem to get.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 15:27:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439144#M77109</guid>
      <dc:creator>southerner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T15:27:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439146#M77110</link>
      <description>I had the misfortune of having an MJ Quinn subby attempt to install a new line last year, the numpty couldn't even find the street cabinet to connect me to &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@DD2C576E9659EC19DB321D3F15B5069C/images/emoticons/grin.gif" alt="Grin" title="Grin" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 15:30:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439146#M77110</guid>
      <dc:creator>Browni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T15:30:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439177#M77116</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;to be fair to the contractor there, some of the actual OR guys struggle to find the cabinets too.&lt;BR /&gt;as the system they have for locating them gives them a pretty vague location. usually just the street and not specifically where on the street it is.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;some of the cabs here are partially covered by hedges etc.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 16:44:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439177#M77116</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T16:44:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439193#M77121</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;@Anonymous wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In this context who are 'they'? I assume you're referring to Open Reach?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I guess it looks as though 'they' are 'BTOR' who if I remember rightly are not contactable by the public?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 17:08:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439193#M77121</guid>
      <dc:creator>southerner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T17:08:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439199#M77122</link>
      <description>no, as you are not their customer.&lt;BR /&gt;you deal with your supplier.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;it's the same as electricity, you don't contact the national grid if you have supply problems, you cannot your supplier.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 17:29:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439199#M77122</guid>
      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T17:29:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439215#M77123</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;National Grid only deals with the high voltage part of the network. Supplies to households are provided by District Network Operating Companies and one can contact them in the case for example of power cuts. One does not contact the company that one pays for electricity usage.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www2.nationalgrid.com/UK/Our-company/Electricity/Distribution-Network-Operator-Companies/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www2.nationalgrid.com/UK/Our-company/Electricity/Distribution-Network-Operator-Companies/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 18:03:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439215#M77123</guid>
      <dc:creator>alanf</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T18:03:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439216#M77124</link>
      <description>ok bad example, but the points stands.&lt;BR /&gt;we are not the customer of OR, so you would contact your supplier in any case.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 18:09:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>chenks76</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T18:09:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439229#M77128</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Don't worry, they'll all be nationalised after the election! &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@BE9A8573C41874B96D816FF97C833900/images/emoticons/2funny.gif" alt="Funny" title="Funny" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 18:59:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439229#M77128</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jonpe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T18:59:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439262#M77130</link>
      <description>Next you'll be suggesting it goes back to the GPO.  If the election goes that badly, this country ain't going to be worth living in.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 22:31:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439262#M77130</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-12T22:31:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439534#M77136</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I remember moving about a year before the BT privatisation; it only took four months to get a phone installed! &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@3AF21BC2FB35A7EC5887D5AD2A659B45/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" alt="Laugh" title="Laugh" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2017 23:24:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jonpe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-13T23:24:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439560#M77137</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I remember trying to get a priority installation for my grandparents around that time &lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/40010"&gt;@Jonpe&lt;/a&gt; , it took me 3 months of almost daily calls to achieve, even with medical services support.&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@7DC150C8DA5C5C6CCEBC4865B071F69B/images/emoticons/uglystupid2.gif" alt="Crazy3" title="Crazy3" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2017 07:10:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-14T07:10:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439601#M77139</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Funny, I do remember many, many years ago on my last house move I'd ordered for a new line well in advance &amp;amp; when I got there BT hadn't even cabled the side of the street I was on and I think the whole process to actually get a line was about 3 months. Had to get a mobile for the 1st time and use that for a while. The Nokia on the left &lt;A href="http://www.computerworld.com/article/3000554/data-privacy/don-t-throw-out-that-old-phone-turn-it-into-a-privacy-device.html" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;I think. It was the new cool phone in those days on what was BT Cellnet with astronomical charges and no plans &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2017 09:35:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>southerner</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-14T09:35:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Contracting out BTOR work</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Contracting-out-BTOR-work/m-p/1439625#M77140</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, this was a new-build and BT blamed the builders for not allowing them on site to lay cables, and the builders claimed that BT didn't turn up on the dates that were made available to them.&amp;nbsp; The result was that BT lost the income generated by 172 properties for three months.&amp;nbsp; There was no mobile alternative in those days.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2017 10:53:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Jonpe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-05-14T10:53:54Z</dc:date>
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