topic Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now? in Plusnet Feedback

Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

savas — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:03:43 GMT

Hi all

I was looking at this article and -nearly- every website on it is blocked.. I get the message:

Access to the websites listed on this page has been blocked pursuant to orders of the high court.

More information can be found at www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk

Why is that? Has something changed with Plusnet that I was not aware of? If not then how can I legally make sure I am not being censored?

I specifically asked before renewing my contract (I think last year) that no websites are blocked. Before someone accuses me of stealing I have a Limitless Odeon membership and an Amazon Prime account so that pretty much covers me for all my content that I like to watch, but I still don't like being blocked like this.

Re: Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

St3 — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 11:58:54 GMT

All but one works for me Not that i use them anyways

Re: Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

VileReynard — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:06:49 GMT

Most of those sites are still open for me.

Makes me laugh when they "shut down" Pirate Bay - its been shut down so many times.

Re: Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

savas — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:23:41 GMT

Well read this article - https://torrentfreak.com/uk-considers-fines-force-search-engines-tackle-piracy-161027/

It will not stop there if people do not object to it this and draw a line. They're suggesting censoring search engines like Google or Bing for example. Once "piracy" is acceptable to censor they'll gladly censor other things to prevent "exposure" to the public!..

Re: Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

Browni — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:32:57 GMT

@savas wrote:

They're suggesting censoring search engines like Google or Bing for example.

Suggesting?

It already happens.

Re: Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

savas — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 13:04:26 GMT

@Browni wrote:

@savas wrote:

They're suggesting censoring search engines like Google or Bing for example.

Suggesting?

It already happens.

Not on the kind of level being proposed here.

Re: Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

southerner — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 15:11:07 GMT

I thought all the illegal file sharing sites were blocked long ago. Not that I've looked in that direction for many years since they started prosecuting people for using them.

Re: Is Plusnet now blocking websites too?

gleneagles — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 17:22:09 GMT

So your ISP keeps a record of every site you visit ? fine but exactly what do they keep ?

Website address, time, date and length of visit.... fine but do they keep a record of everything you do on that site ?

For example I go on ebay and look at say guns, knives, mushrooms or whatever is all that logged ?

Even if it is my IP address logged as looking or downloading info from ebay how can the person using my IP address be identified, even harder if the address is in my name but several houses use my ip address and we all share the cost.

This would be a field day for a barrister.

Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

savas — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:34:25 GMT

I just want a proper yes or no answer so I can know for sure that Plusnet indeed is now blocking websites just like BT and other providers, you know the message such as:

Access to the websites listed on this page has been blocked pursuant to orders of the high court.

More information can be found at www.ukispcourtorders.co.uk

Here's the website I checked to confirm - http://rarbg.com/

Can someone confirm that it's not just me that the website is being blocked on.

https://www.blocked.org.uk/results?url=http://rarbg.com/ is telling me this.

I can't find anywhere on plusnet's website saying they've now blocked these websites too.

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

Oldjim — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:06:17 GMT

This is almost certainly the reason

Tracing route to www.rarbg.com [185.37.100.121] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
2 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms lo0.central10.psb-bng04.plus.net [195.166.130.255]
3 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 411.be8.psb-ir01.plus.net [84.93.253.123]
4 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms core1-BE1.southbank.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.125.130]
5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms core3-hu0-1-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.127.32]
6 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms 213.121.193.26
7 * * * Request timed out.

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

savas — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:11:04 GMT

Not necessarily, I just spoke to Plusnet support and as per high court order they are blocking these websites because it's a legal requirement?

Does this not breach the contract? As at the time they did not block any such websites, but now they do? Do I not get a right to exit because of this?

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

Browni — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:17:51 GMT

It's not just you

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

Mav — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:25:38 GMT

Moderator's note by Mike (Mav)

Two topics with similar content by the same OP merged

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

savas — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:40:33 GMT

It was moved twice now to plusnet feedback when it's a general question on plusnet, not feedback... Why merge it when it's weeks behind and the prevous post got no proper answers from Plusnet? People and websites think Plusnet is not blocking websites, but now they are.

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

Mav — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:46:05 GMT

@savas

I merged the two threads so that anyone replying to the subsequent thread would easily see any previous replies.

This is much better sitting in Feedback as it is not asking for specific help and may be missed if placed in General Chat.

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

VileReynard — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:13:31 GMT

It is only blocked from the larger UK ISP's.

Can I suggest a VPN - although a foreign web proxy might just work.

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

savas — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:19:58 GMT

Suggesting a VPN goes around the problem, not solves it. I don't see why websites have to be blocked by American corporations when we live in the UK and are UK ISP's? They don't even block these websites in the U.S?

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

Oldjim — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:23:03 GMT

Because they obtained UK Court Orders

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

ScottStorey — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:55:46 GMT

Unless is changed very recently, plusnet isn't subject to the court orders and doesn't actively block.

However, they do peer with BT who are subject to the court orders so you can get caught up in the blocking being on Plusnet.

Re: Is Plusnet officially blocking websites now?

VileReynard — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:19:36 GMT

Because Plusnet borrow BT's infrastructure.