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Plusnet - New Network

Oldjim — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 19:43:10 GMT

http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,147446.msg1297561.html#msg1297561
What is this
Are you starting to use LLU as well as BT

Re: Plusnet - New Network

amcclean — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 20:03:14 GMT

For a while back in 2007 PN trialed LLU lines from Tiscalli but stopped due to issues with the service. Maybe they have ventured into it again as they aim to take on talk talk.
As they are a subsidiary of BT would they want to move off the BT network. I guess we will have to wait and see if your original post gets any replies from support.
https://www.samknows.com/broadband/providers/tiscali

podman

Re: Plusnet - New Network

ejs — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 20:12:15 GMT

Perhaps it's something to do with the "WBMC Datacentre In Building Handover (IBH) at Telehouse North" mentioned in the ISP Forum slides from September.

Re: Plusnet - New Network

bobpullen — Tue, 05 Jan 2016 23:19:22 GMT

Quote from: Oldjim
Are you starting to use LLU as well as BT

No, it's nothing like that.

Re: Plusnet - New Network

Den1 — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 10:54:08 GMT

Can you elaborate on that a bit ?

Re: Plusnet - New Network

jelv — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 12:35:08 GMT

Could someone who's had one of these messages post the output from

tracert ntp.plus.net

please.

Re: Plusnet - New Network

jelv — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 13:26:04 GMT

Does the new network support IPv6 (and if not, why not)?

Re: Plusnet - New Network

HarryB — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 14:01:59 GMT

As Bob said, nothing to do with LLU.
We’re very excited to say we’re massively increasing our capacity. We’re deploying an expansion in the current broadband network which will give our customers even more opportunity to make the most of the latest technologies and next generation online services.
We are confident that the new network will deliver a better experience in terms of both reliability and performance thanks to the improved architecture.
If you're on the new network, you may see some difference in the traceroutes.

Re: Plusnet - New Network

w23 — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 14:35:33 GMT

Unfortunately I've never really had any performance issue with my Plusnet service, are you saying it will get even better (or am I just less likely to see any issues in the future than I might have been without these 'improvements')?

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Re: Plusnet - New Network

jelv — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 14:47:10 GMT

Quote from: spoon
Does the new network support IPv6 (and if not, why not)?

Plusnet: Any comment on this question?

Re: Plusnet - New Network

leader — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 16:22:27 GMT

Dedicated

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Townman — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 16:23:18 GMT

If it is out there, in use, being deployed why the big secret on what it is?

Re: Plusnet - New Network

amcclean — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 16:32:54 GMT

In the post linked to by OldJim the OP was advised his line was being "moved" to the new network. How would a line need moved to a new network if it were still on the BT network.
I hope it's is something that will be available all PN customers I currently am FTTC only with line rental elsewhere.
podman

Re: Plusnet - New Network

rongtw — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 16:45:58 GMT

I wonder if its for the 18month free BB customers they are advertising for now on TV
Or is it to relive some of the congestion some see on the massive post , with sort of some PN input its they way they decide to fix by secretively add new pipes

Re: Plusnet - New Network

bigwest — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 18:17:09 GMT

With this expansion to your network capacity I guess you will be able to remove the 2MB upload cap on Unlimited Fibre now ?

Re: Plusnet - New Network

RichardB — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:26:01 GMT

The new network is intriguing.......
As PN have stated that the new network is not LLU they must be still using BT Wholesale.
I can only guess that the cease was required due the BT Wholesale routing changing, perhaps from WMBC shared to WMBC dedicated?
As usual the excellent Kitz website explains these terms:
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/wbc_wbmc.htm#WBMC_shared
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/wbc_wbmc.htm#WBMC_dedicated.

Re: Plusnet - New Network

AndyH — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:14:46 GMT

Quote from: Webif
Dedicated

Quote
1 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 4 ms 6 ms 6 ms 172.17.3.205
5 11 ms 6 ms 7 ms 172.17.10.130
6 6 ms 5 ms 8 ms be2.pcn-ir01.plus.net [195.166.129.164]
7 10 ms 7 ms 8 ms core1-BE1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.125.132]
8 7 ms 5 ms 8 ms 62.172.103.13
9 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms 194.74.65.42
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 12 ms 14 ms 24 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109]
13 10 ms 53 ms 7 ms 132.185.255.148
14 6 ms 6 ms 5 ms 212.58.244.23

Quote
Tracing route to ntp.plus.net [212.159.6.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 10 ms 17 ms 8 ms 172.17.3.205
5 6 ms 9 ms 6 ms 172.17.10.130
6 51 ms 6 ms 6 ms be2.pcn-ir01.plus.net [195.166.129.164]
7 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms gr-11-1-0.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.185]
8 6 ms 6 ms 9 ms ae2.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.5]
9 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms po2.ptw-gw02.plus.net [195.166.129.39]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 7 ms 6 ms 5 ms cdns01.plus.net [212.159.6.9]

Re: Plusnet - New Network

Gus — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:47:14 GMT

So when is it going live for us that pay for the new customers
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html?id=145211609314909945415
The change over can't come quick enough at peek times, with the packet loss on my TBB graph and poor speeds when gaming or watching streams since Sunday 4th.

Re: Plusnet - New Network

bobpullen — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:55:25 GMT

Quote from: Gus
So when is it going live for us that pay for the new customers...

That's exactly what this thread is witnessing Gus. I'm not close enough to things to comment on timescales but bear in mind it won't be obvious to everybody when they've been moved i.e. you won't all see traceroutes like that ^

Re: Plusnet - New Network

jafreer — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:57:20 GMT

Quote from: Bob
it won't be obvious to everybody when they've been moved i.e. you won't all see traceroutes like that ^

Will everyone be getting moved over Bob?