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Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

Luzern — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:50:29 GMT

See http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,15283.540.html ; and posts #545 onwards. Seems out of character, unless PN's big brother is watching.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

dvorak — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:56:56 GMT

nope, two posts were removed. one was a personal attack to another forum member and the other was a reply that.
there was nothing in either post that added to thread or criticism of PN.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

chrcoluk — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:30:03 GMT

interesting you count it as a personal attack. I have had much more rude things said to myself without mod intervention. The person in question does indeed seem to be getting special attention from the mods on here.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

Anotherone — Sat, 13 Jun 2015 21:04:59 GMT

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

Townman — Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:47:43 GMT

They are indeed applying censorship for a number of reasons. We live in an age where one can no longer speak as one sees, no matter how nicely it is said. Even where something is evidently true, if someone can find a non-PC spin, it will be censored, with out any discussion of the facts or merit of the statement.
Personal attacks are never to be tolerated, but "blanket" PC censorship needs to be resisted.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

Chris — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:01:16 GMT

The posts that were removed, in my opinion, had no merit nor furthered the threads they were posted in.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

pwatson — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:07:33 GMT

While I can see that it is sometimes necessary to remove posts I strongly feel that simply deleting them is wrong.
Please consider a process where post content is replaced by a message along the lines of "Post deleted due to <reason>" so at least it's clear that a moderator has taken action rather than just 'disappearing' the offending content.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

dvorak — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:14:14 GMT

the issue with that is that there is way then to review what has been removed.
Currently they are placed in a hidden forum for other moderators / staff to review and not deleted.
Chris (above) has reviewed the removed posts, if there was feeling that the moderators had been too heavy handed then they could be placed back in the thread.
just deleting the text wouldn't allow for that.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

Oldjim — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:15:01 GMT

The advantage of the present system is that the post isn't deleted but removed to a hidden board where other mods and indeed staff can see it
This means that it is also possible to reinstate the removed post and also quote from it in a PM to the author if so desired
Editing it as suggested permanently removes all evidence of what was there before

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

Chris — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:27:36 GMT

And remember that the mods don't get paid, discounted bills etc for doing this. So keeping things as quick and simple as possible is ideal really.

Re: Are Plusnet or Forum Mods censoring posts?

chenks76 — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:43:56 GMT

Quote from: Townman
They are indeed applying censorship for a number of reasons. We live in an age where one can no longer speak as one sees, no matter how nicely it is said

you are confusing the right to freedom of speech and the right to be heard.
you are free to say whatever you like, however you do not have the right to force people to listen to you.
when you come to any forum (or similar group) then you have the right say anything you want providing it is within the rules of the forum.
if you feel any forum does not match your interpreted right to say what you want then you go elsewhere.