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    <title>topic Re: Stuck with this for another year. in Plusnet Feedback</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631926#M5059</link>
    <description>Wireless at mine is dreadful.&amp;nbsp; I struggle getting a signal about 20 feet away in my room (which is up one floor).&lt;BR /&gt;It's a Thomson Router, but not a 585.&amp;nbsp; It's one of the ones with two VoIP ports, but I can never remember the model number.&amp;nbsp; I'm also far too lazy to change the wireless channel and so on, I just run a 30 foot CAT5E cable up to my room.</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:19:47 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-07-28T12:19:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631912#M5045</link>
      <description>Having problems with a wireless connection to my wifes laptop which is never situated more than 30 feet away from my own neatgear router. Decided to have a go a BT broadband hub so decided to ring for a MAC key. Advised that a Thompson&amp;nbsp; TG 585 v 7 would do the job and as my usage was low I could get my monthly bill reduced by half. After 2 months the new router is no better and when I informed them and asked where I stand having been with them for over a year, they tell I am now on a further years contract and to terminate it I will have to pay up front. This weekend I was in the process of referring someone from AOL, I have just stopped this.&amp;nbsp;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:20:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631912#M5045</guid>
      <dc:creator>hermit</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T16:20:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631913#M5046</link>
      <description>You don't believe that BT advertising do you? The ASA made them change their adverts from a claim that they were the best to nobody does it better.&lt;BR /&gt;If you are getting similar results from a Netgear and a Thompson the BT isn't going to be very different (if at all).&lt;BR /&gt;Have you tried using different channels?</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:37:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631913#M5046</guid>
      <dc:creator>jelv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T16:37:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631914#M5047</link>
      <description>i use a program called &amp;lt;a href="http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider"&amp;gt;inSSIDer&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; to check for blank spots in signal and also to see what channels other routers are using in the street.&lt;BR /&gt;also some of the ideas in this thread may increase your coverage of wireless around your home.http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,77852.0.html&lt;BR /&gt;also remember that on bt's low cost package they now restrict iplayer speeds</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:45:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631914#M5047</guid>
      <dc:creator>scootie</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T16:45:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631915#M5048</link>
      <description>Why not just buy a 30 foot ethernet cable?</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:19:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631915#M5048</guid>
      <dc:creator>VileReynard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T18:19:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631916#M5049</link>
      <description>Or use homeplugs.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:18:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631916#M5049</guid>
      <dc:creator>jelv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T19:18:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631917#M5050</link>
      <description>@ hermit, &lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;which is never situated more than 30 feet away from my own &lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;30 ft is Ok in the open air, even 100 ft, But if you are indoors and you have walls in the way that are more than paper thin,you will be lucky to get a signal off any router&lt;BR /&gt;Have you checked if any other person is on the channel that you are using, there are 11 and it is often seen that in a busy area more thaqn one on the same channel.&lt;BR /&gt;dont discard the suggstions of the other posters, Cable to cat5 is the best, and homeplugs also work well</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:56:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631917#M5050</guid>
      <dc:creator>pierre_pierre</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T21:56:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631918#M5051</link>
      <description>My Thomson TG585_7 works throughout the bungalow, 50 feet radius or more include stud partician walls - the signal is "excellent" a at the far end of the place.&lt;BR /&gt;Router is on a table and has clear view into the hallway - but keep it as high as you can in the room.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:15:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631918#M5051</guid>
      <dc:creator>mal0z</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T22:15:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631919#M5052</link>
      <description>An &lt;B&gt;internal brick wall&lt;/B&gt; (one brick thick)&amp;nbsp; will severely limit your signal.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:42:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631919#M5052</guid>
      <dc:creator>VileReynard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-19T23:42:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631920#M5053</link>
      <description>Good point - it depends on construction of the house. Very many new houses - maybe from 20 or more years ago just have wooden frame and plaster - mine has - and with a wooden door, I get the signal - and PC says "excellent" signal strength 40 feet from router.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:10:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631920#M5053</guid>
      <dc:creator>mal0z</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-20T09:10:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631921#M5054</link>
      <description>My old house was built in the 30's, every wall is brick and i get 'excellent' connection everywhere including the end of the garden. With the same router none the less&amp;nbsp; &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@13ACAF1B4DB3038AD540E11CDD6AB984/images/emoticons/cheesy.gif" alt="Cheesy" title="Cheesy" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:43:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631921#M5054</guid>
      <dc:creator>mrmarkus1981</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-21T11:43:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631922#M5055</link>
      <description>&lt;BR /&gt;This thread set me thinking - so I did the tests I describe here:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,77935.0.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,77935.0.html&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:08:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631922#M5055</guid>
      <dc:creator>mal0z</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-21T12:08:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631923#M5056</link>
      <description>Have you considered the laptop as being the problem and tried a different wireless device to check the strength of signal?&amp;nbsp; Generally the Thomson routers put out an excellent signal.. Would agree with the posters here and try a different channel before doing anything else.&lt;BR /&gt;Also consider devices that may be between the router and your laptop.&amp;nbsp; Handsfree phones and microwave ovens especially are bad.&amp;nbsp; Anything metal (fridges, bannisters, bedframes) will also interrupt your signal.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631923#M5056</guid>
      <dc:creator>petejackson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-21T14:37:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631924#M5057</link>
      <description>I think the hermit has gone &lt;IMG src="http://www.emotionless.co.uk/emotes/b/tiphat.gif" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Maybe he is trying his router in the cave next door?&lt;IMG src="http://www.emotionless.co.uk/emotes/a/angry24.gif" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:41:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631924#M5057</guid>
      <dc:creator>Santiago</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-21T15:41:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631925#M5058</link>
      <description>It's always something else at fault,&amp;nbsp; although I have to say my ST585v6 sits in the bedroom of my 1950 Bricks &amp;amp; Mortar Bungalow. I have excellent WI-Fi throughout and through many brick interior walls, signal is good even including inside the caravan at the top of the 100 metre garden.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:10:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631925#M5058</guid>
      <dc:creator>Diamond</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-28T12:10:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631926#M5059</link>
      <description>Wireless at mine is dreadful.&amp;nbsp; I struggle getting a signal about 20 feet away in my room (which is up one floor).&lt;BR /&gt;It's a Thomson Router, but not a 585.&amp;nbsp; It's one of the ones with two VoIP ports, but I can never remember the model number.&amp;nbsp; I'm also far too lazy to change the wireless channel and so on, I just run a 30 foot CAT5E cable up to my room.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:19:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631926#M5059</guid>
      <dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-28T12:19:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631927#M5060</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;Quote from: Diamond&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;It's always something else at fault,&amp;nbsp; although I have to say my ST585v6 sits in the bedroom of my 1950 Bricks &amp;amp; Mortar Bungalow. I have excellent WI-Fi throughout and through many brick interior walls, signal is good even including inside the caravan at the top of the 100 metre garden.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;100m garden. Does that mean that there are no other properties near you with Wi-Fi or cordless phones?&lt;BR /&gt;If you are in a house with brick interior walls and your laptop can see the house across the road through the window and their router is near the front of their house, which one will give the better signal?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:20:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631927#M5060</guid>
      <dc:creator>jelv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-28T12:20:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631928#M5061</link>
      <description>Yes, although I am in a rural area, there are properties beside me and over the road with wifi, (none behind though.)&lt;BR /&gt; My laptop does detect them and the signal is the same strength, even from the caravan, as next door's router is just one double brick dividing wall away. If I had the password, I would not need my own router.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:26:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Diamond</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-04T11:26:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631929#M5062</link>
      <description>If you can find a WEP "encrypted" router you could download some cracking software.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:38:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631929#M5062</guid>
      <dc:creator>VileReynard</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-04T11:38:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631930#M5063</link>
      <description>By &lt;B&gt;cracking software&lt;/B&gt; I presume you mean wonderful software Jeremy &lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://community.plus.net/html/@0FA1396AC0773F33E2DC472BB4F75D3C/images/emoticons/wink.gif" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:47:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631930#M5063</guid>
      <dc:creator>Strat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-04T11:47:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stuck with this for another year.</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631931#M5064</link>
      <description>Oh &lt;B&gt;beautiful&lt;/B&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:16:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/Plusnet-Feedback/Stuck-with-this-for-another-year/m-p/631931#M5064</guid>
      <dc:creator>pierre_pierre</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-08-04T12:16:22Z</dc:date>
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