topic Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages in Plusnet Feedback

Pointless use of flash on support webpages

ejs — Thu, 01 May 2014 21:46:38 GMT

I have no idea why someone would decide to use flash to display what should presumably be a simple piece of text. It doesn't really work very well if you have the flash plugin configured as click to activate.
Edit: For example URL: http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/speed_guide/index.shtml?supporta=speedguide

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

pjmarsh — Thu, 01 May 2014 22:26:15 GMT

Do you mean the bits in the screen headings? They aren't showing as flash for me. Looking at the source there isn't anything particularly special about them:

<h3 class="fullBoxHeader txtHeader"><span>Getting Started</span></h3>

Phil

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

jelv — Thu, 01 May 2014 23:45:05 GMT

You didn't look deep enough!

<object id="sIFR_replacement_1" class="sIFR-flash" width="127" height="25" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" name="sIFR_replacement_1" data="/assets/vagrounded.swf"></object>

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

pjmarsh — Fri, 02 May 2014 07:37:30 GMT

Ah right. That isn't on that page for me. I think we may have seen differences in support pages between business and residential before. Something to do with the stylesheets when printing maybe?
Phil

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

jelv — Fri, 02 May 2014 08:20:50 GMT

Did you delve down fully in to the class?

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

pjmarsh — Fri, 02 May 2014 08:31:44 GMT

Yep, no sign of it for me.

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

LinnPlusnet — Fri, 02 May 2014 08:50:14 GMT

I'll flag this up to the Web Team, ejs.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused by it.

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

Townman — Fri, 02 May 2014 14:46:56 GMT

Also consider that Flash does not work on iApple devices due to technology licensing arguments!

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

TORPC — Fri, 02 May 2014 15:24:23 GMT

Well spotted / remembered / researched Townman

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

dvorak — Fri, 02 May 2014 15:35:57 GMT

Also on this page
http://www.plus.net/support/service/network_performance/network-latency.shtml
flash block to the rescue again
also adobe stopped official support for it in jellybean..

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

TORPC — Fri, 02 May 2014 15:40:18 GMT

With plugin allowed

With Plugin Blocked

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

ejs — Fri, 02 May 2014 16:27:06 GMT

The page will display fine if you don't have flash installed. It's only a problem if you have flash installed but set for click to activate. Still seems fairly pointless to use flash just to display a piece of text.

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

TORPC — Fri, 02 May 2014 16:30:36 GMT

a simple [code=HTML]<p>TAG</p> [/code]would suffice

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

Townman — Fri, 02 May 2014 16:53:08 GMT

Quote from: TORPC
Well spotted / remembered / researched Townman

Working knowledge - one reason I've never used flash in web site developments - iApple is becoming very predominant / the browser of choice, so there is little point developing websites using unsupported technologies... especially to display what is otherwise plain text which would be better rendered via CSS / CSS3.

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

TORPC — Fri, 02 May 2014 17:49:29 GMT

Applies to all 3 then

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

ejs — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:27:06 GMT

Any update on the rationale of using flash to display simple text from your allegedly "experienced and professional" web development team? It appears to be the total opposite of adhering to standards, and common sense.
Experienced = have been doing what they've been doing for a long time
Professional = they are paid money to do it, it's their job

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

chrcoluk — Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:37:26 GMT

I couldnt care less about apple devices, but I do think its stupid to use flash when its not required, now days web dev's seem to have no care for security and bloat of their websites. Using flash to display text is borderline insanity.

Re: Pointless use of flash on support webpages

TORPC — Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:29:10 GMT

Quote from: dvorak
Also on this page
http://www.plus.net/support/service/network_performance/network-latency.shtml
flash block to the rescue again
also adobe stopped official support for it in jellybean..

also another page that has been neglected, with images still unavailable, therefore is there any rational need / requirement for all the unavailable images ?