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The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

deathtrap — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:25:48 GMT

From trying to access ThePirateBay.sx directly it once again is failing to load, and a tracert stops at core2-pos0-6-4-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net ????

Target Name: thepiratebay.sx
         IP: 194.71.107.27
  Date/Time: 02/08/2013 16:17:28 to 02/08/2013 16:24:12
Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    88  30  34.1   0   0   0  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
 2    89   0   0.0  13 676  37  lo0-central10.pcl-ag08.plus.net [195.166.128.189]
 3    89   0   0.0  13  17  13  link2-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net [84.93.249.226]
 4    89   0   0.0  12  75  15  222.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.222]
 5    89   0   0.0  13  45  13  ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2]
 6    89   0   0.0  13  21  17  [195.99.126.182]
 7    89   0   0.0  15  23  17  core2-pos0-6-4-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.125.194]
 8    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
 9    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
10    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
11    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
12    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
13    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
14    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
15    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
16    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
17    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
18    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
19    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
20    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
21    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
22    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
23    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
24    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
25    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
26    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
27    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
28    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
29    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
30    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
31    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
32    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
33    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
34    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
35    88  88 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
Destination not reached in 35 hops

Also this meddling filtering ./censorship dictatorship , has broken a news site, http://www.otsnews.co.uk/ Which as of today also fails to load , unless i use a proxy here's the message i get for that

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

HairyMcbiker — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:29:40 GMT

Since thepiratebay* is banned by court order they will not be interested in it being blocked. But the news site shouldn't be blocked as well.
*BTW other ways still work

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

adamwalker — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:30:14 GMT

Cheers for bringing this to our attention, we'll make sure it's looked into.
Adam

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

Chris — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:34:32 GMT

Just to confirm, I can get to otsnews.co.uk from my home (Plusnet) connection.

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

deathtrap — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:39:59 GMT

Edit: fixed with correct web address
Well it's not accessible from my connection here's a tracert

Target Name: otsnews.co.uk
         IP: 91.232.125.10
  Date/Time: 02/08/2013 17:43:07
 1    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
 2   14 ms   16 ms   14 ms  lo0-central10.pcl-ag08.plus.net [195.166.128.189]
 3   13 ms   13 ms   13 ms  link2-central10.pcl-gw02.plus.net [84.93.249.226]
 4   12 ms   13 ms   30 ms  222.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.222]
 5   14 ms   16 ms   16 ms  ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2]
 6   13 ms   13 ms   13 ms  ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
 7   *       *      N/A      [-]
 8   20 ms   65 ms   20 ms  te-11-8-0.core-dc1.man4.uk.m247.com [77.243.176.58]
 9   20 ms   20 ms   33 ms  te-7-5-0.core-dc2.man4.uk.m247.com [77.243.176.106]
10   23 ms   21 ms   21 ms  [77.243.179.214]
11   21 ms   21 ms   23 ms  ds-119.ukdns.biz [91.232.125.10]
Ping statistics for otsnews.co.uk - Default Settings
Packets: Sent = 3, Received = 3, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 21ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 21ms

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

Oldjim — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:43:52 GMT

working fine here

Quote
C:\Users\Jim>tracert www.otsnews.co.uk
Tracing route to cf-protected-www.otsnews.co.uk.cdn.cloudflare.net [141.101.117.122]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 56 ms 73 ms 99 ms 192.168.1.254
2 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms lo0-central10.ptw-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.195]
3 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms link-b-central10.ptw-gw02.plus.net [212.159.2.146]
4 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms 242.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.242]
5 32 ms 33 ms 33 ms ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
6 51 ms 31 ms 32 ms 195.66.225.179
7 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms 141.101.117.122
Trace complete.

EDIT - the IP address is different - I am using Google DNS server as the primary with Plusnet as the secondary

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

deathtrap — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:51:55 GMT

The Correct IP is: 91.232.125.10 it have since edited my last post as i had provided a tracert to the wrong web address, otsnews.com instead of .co.uk

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

Oldjim — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 17:15:40 GMT

except it isn't according to my tracert

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

ejs — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 17:19:50 GMT

There are 2 different IP addresses for 2 different domain names, both work:
[tt]# traceroute -q 1 -N 1 -T -p 80 otsnews.co.uk
traceroute to otsnews.co.uk (91.232.125.10), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 2.180 ms
2 lo0-central10.ptw-ag04.plus.net (195.166.128.194) 25.242 ms
3 link-a-central10.ptw-gw01.plus.net (212.159.2.156) 24.764 ms
4 xe-10-0-0.ptw-cr01.plus.net (212.159.1.40) 25.823 ms
5 *
6 te-7-5-3341.core-dc1.man4.uk.m247.com (77.243.185.169) 33.377 ms
7 te-7-5-0.core-dc2.man4.uk.m247.com (77.243.176.106) 32.233 ms
8 *
9 ds-119.ukdns.biz (91.232.125.10) 33.282 ms[/tt]
[tt]# traceroute -q 1 -N 1 -T -p 80 www.otsnews.co.uk
traceroute to www.otsnews.co.uk (141.101.117.122), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 2.071 ms
2 lo0-central10.ptw-ag04.plus.net (195.166.128.194) 24.818 ms
3 link-a-central10.ptw-gw01.plus.net (212.159.2.156) 24.882 ms
4 xe-10-0-0.ptw-cr01.plus.net (212.159.1.40) 24.433 ms
5 195.66.225.179 (195.66.225.179) 24.483 ms
6 141.101.117.122 (141.101.117.122) 24.691 ms[/tt]

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

deathtrap — Fri, 02 Aug 2013 17:45:49 GMT

Quote from: Hairy
Since thepiratebay* is banned by court order they will not be interested in it being blocked. But the news site shouldn't be blocked as well.
*BTW other ways still work

BT retail was the ISP named in the court order not Plusnet, and PN staff have commented previously that it was their peering provider that was blocking TPB , and not PN Unfortunately once again traffic is being routed over BT core links hence the filtering , Iwish people would wake up as to where this censorship of the webz will end, if it's allowed to continue unchallenged by the public We as consumers pay for internet access that should include the whole internet not a partially blocked intranet like they have in china , maybe the public should start paying less for a partial internet service ?

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

deathtrap — Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:30:26 GMT

As i didn't hear any more from plus net i thought i would update you on the otsnews web site it is now accessible again without needing to use a proxy
here are the tracerts Target Name: otsnews.co.uk
IP: 91.232.125.10
Date/Time: 06/08/2013 20:24:18
1 0 ms 0 ms N/A home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
2 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms lo0-central10.pcl-ag07.plus.net [195.166.128.188]
3 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms link-a-central10.pcl-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.184]
4 16 ms 12 ms 12 ms 216.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.216]
5 14 ms 12 ms 15 ms ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0]
6 * N/A N/A [-]
7 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms te-11-8-0.core-dc1.man4.uk.m247.com [77.243.176.58]
8 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms te-7-5-0.core-dc2.man4.uk.m247.com [77.243.176.106]
9 24 ms 20 ms 20 ms [77.243.179.214]
10 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms ds-119.ukdns.biz [91.232.125.10]

Target Name: www.otsnews.co.uk
IP: 91.232.125.10
Date/Time: 06/08/2013 20:27:07 to 06/08/2013 20:27:54
Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP]
1 18 11 61.1 0 0 0 home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
2 20 0 0.0 12 61 16 lo0-central10.pcl-ag07.plus.net [195.166.128.188]
3 20 0 0.0 12 16 12 link-a-central10.pcl-gw01.plus.net [212.159.2.184]
4 20 0 0.0 12 16 12 216.core.access.plus.net [212.159.0.216]
5 20 0 0.0 12 47 15 ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0]
6 20 20 100.0 0 0 0 [-]
7 20 0 0.0 20 27 20 te-11-8-0.core-dc1.man4.uk.m247.com [77.243.176.58]
8 20 0 0.0 20 46 21 te-7-5-0.core-dc2.man4.uk.m247.com [77.243.176.106]
9 20 0 0.0 20 22 20 [77.243.179.214]
10 20 0 0.0 20 21 20 ds-119.ukdns.biz [91.232.125.10]
Ping statistics for otsnews.co.uk - Default Settings
Packets: Sent = 3, Received = 3, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 21ms, Average = 20ms
I note that the IP has changed to the same as otsnews.co.uk resolves to instead of the ip that began with 141

Re: The PirateBay is being blocked again and maybe other legal sites

dratddestroyer — Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:56:01 GMT

http://www.otsnews.co.uk is viewable here.