topic Re: iPad Mini competition in Plusnet Feedback

iPad Mini competition

jelv — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:40:06 GMT

Not impressed with Plusnet running a competition that is not open to all users!
Nor that the rules are incomplete and don't state all the prerequisites needed to be able to enter.

Re: iPad Mini competition

rookey — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:41:31 GMT

Where this not seen it

Re: iPad Mini competition

jelv — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:42:26 GMT

http://community.plus.net/

Re: iPad Mini competition

Chris — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:43:01 GMT

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Not impressed with Plusnet running a competition that is not open to all users!

It is open to all users, just need to sign up a Facebook account.

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Nor that the rules are incomplete and don't state all the prerequisites needed to be able to enter.!

What are the rules missing?

Re: iPad Mini competition

AndyH — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:43:19 GMT

Is open to all UK residents though (excluding PN staff/family etc.)?

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1. The draw is open to UK residents aged 18 or over, other than employees of Plusnet, their families or its agencies. Only one entry per person

Re: iPad Mini competition

jelv — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:54:26 GMT

Quote from: Chris
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Not impressed with Plusnet running a competition that is not open to all users!

It is open to all users, just need to sign up a Facebook account.
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Nor that the rules are incomplete and don't state all the prerequisites needed to be able to enter.!

What are the rules missing?

The need to have a Facebook account is missing from the rules. I have no need of a Facebook account and given the frequently reported risks associated with such an account have no intention of opening one just to be able to enter a competition.
Could you point me where in the Plusnet Terms and Conditions it says I am required to open a Facebook account to be able to fully participate in all the opportunities offered to Plusnet users?

Re: iPad Mini competition

Chris — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:00:38 GMT

This competition isn't open to just Plusnet users, therefore the rules for the competition are on the place that the competition is being run (Facebook). I'm really not sure why we'd have rules about entering competitions in the T&Cs at signup, that'd be confusing.

Re: iPad Mini competition

mikko — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:40:29 GMT

With you all the way on the Facebook, Jelv. Have to use it though as people keep telling me they've put photos on it of events I was at. Bl**dy nuisance.

Re: iPad Mini competition

w23 — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:41:30 GMT

Quote from: jelv
I have no need of a Facebook account....

Unless you want to win an iPad

Re: iPad Mini competition

newagetraveller — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:50:10 GMT

Oh well, as I've no intention of getting a Twitface account nor anything fruity then that rules me out!

Re: iPad Mini competition

DaveyH — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:54:59 GMT

Facebook, pfft. Count me out...

Re: iPad Mini competition

avatastic — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:58:16 GMT

This really shouldn't be branded as a Plusnet competition.
Especially when to enter it people have to hand over:
Your basic info
Your email address
Your profile info: birthday, education history, likes and location
To an unknown 3rd party.

Re: iPad Mini competition

Desmo — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:45:18 GMT

Quote from: jelv
Could you point me where in the Plusnet Terms and Conditions it says I am required to open a Facebook account to be able to fully participate in all the opportunities offered to Plusnet users?

Grow up. Got nothing better to do?

Re: iPad Mini competition

jelv — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:07:30 GMT

That is totally unwarranted.
I have no need of FaceAche and get sick and tired of people on a forum I frequent for one of my hobbies posting links to 'public' galleries of photos where they haven't set the permissions correctly. Instead I keep getting blackmail attempts 'join FaceAche or we won't let you see the pictures'. FaceAche have deliberately made it difficult for the ordinary user to get the permissions right so that pressure is put on non-users to join.
For my ISP to join the conspiracy by making me have to join FaceAche if I want to participate in a competition that is supposed to be open to all users is just a red rag to a bull!

Re: iPad Mini competition

Anotherone — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:57:26 GMT

I agree with jelv that it should be clearly stated in the rules that there is the need to sign up for a Facebook account, but I don't agree with his thoughts on the Ts&Cs.
I have so far resisted any suggestion to become a Twit or get a FaceAche or be LinkEd to these insecure faceless databases that want to know all your personal information and don't have the security to match.
I also think it a bit unfair to run a competition in this manner.
And

Quote from: Desmo
Grow up. Got nothing better to do?

I think you are the one who hasn't got something better to do in this instance.

Re: iPad Mini competition

Desmo — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:17:11 GMT

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I think you are the one who hasn't got something better to do in this instance.

You're right, I did. I went back to work instead of worrying about some terms and conditions
I'm seriously asking, should Plusnet change their terms and conditions to cover every single future possibility of a site you might have to join to enter a competition just so a user is "fully able to participate in all the opportunities offered to Plusnet users"?
Sorry, that one sentence sounds like something straight out of whingers anonymous to me. As jelv said, it's like a red rag to a bull

Re: iPad Mini competition

Anotherone — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:22:57 GMT

Well I didn't agree with the Ts&Cs suggestion as I said, but I can see where he is coming from, and I don't suppose he nor I, come to that, were worrying about it You obviously don't agree either which is fair enough, but you remark was still unwarranted IMHO.

Re: iPad Mini competition

jelv — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:38:31 GMT

I wasn't for a minute suggesting that the Plusnet Ts&Cs should be changed. What I was objecting to was that Plusnet blame us for not being able to enter the competition by not signing up to Facebook. They have committed a basic error, just because they all use FaceAche they assume everyone else will do so.
When doing anything else like that they should start from the point that all their users can access websites and have email, no more no less. They should not make any assumptions that people have signed up to any service other than those provided by Plusnet themselves and which are available to all Plusnet users.

Re: iPad Mini competition

Chris — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:41:51 GMT

One of the reasons behind doing the competition on Facebook is to get people on to our Facebook page. I'll make sure we pass your feedback on for future competitions, however I can't see us changing this one.

Re: iPad Mini competition

Anotherone — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:50:38 GMT

Maybe that the majority of Plusnet users have more sense than to use Facebook
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