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so how do a make a poll (asksam)

vetterlein — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:30:39 GMT

Just got invited to ask sam ... I'd like to see a poll ?
Askasm : https://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/requirements
want to connect hardware to my LAn so it can monitor speeds .. all well and good but they use 4 Gb .. on any PluNet package that is a killer ..so poll..

Interested in using asksam (speed monitoring)
1: No way I want foreign hardware in my home
2: Not with PlusNet capped packages
3: Well yes, but can't do to for some reason
4: Yes! Sign me up , more information good.

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

RPMozley — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:36:55 GMT

If you want to set up a poll here, click on 'Post new poll' instead of 'New topic'.

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

spraxyt — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:26:52 GMT

But bear in mind Plusnet can't sign you up because to avoid potential bias they can't be made aware of which customers have monitoring on their connections. Sign up is by filling in the form on the Samknows site.
In the email Plusnet do their best to give guidance on the implications of 4GB per month being taken up from monthly allowances by the monitoring transactions. They advise users not to sign up if they normally run close to their monthly limit. That is a lot for Plusnet Value customers - I wouldn't describe it as a killer - but less so for those on Extra.

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

Oldjim — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:41:04 GMT

Note that the email went out to a very small selection of customers - how it was determined which ones received it I have no idea although I was one of them.
I fell foul of the power point requirement as the one by the telephone is already fully loaded and there isn't really space for another box which wouldn't match the decor

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

jelv — Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:42:07 GMT

I got the email - but I've had a SamKnows box for four years!

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

vetterlein — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:52:45 GMT

OldJim,
Despite what they say , looking at the video of "howto install" it looks like they simply replace the router , so it's the same number of boxes.
--
graeme

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

jelv — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:43:59 GMT

I think that's something that may have changed as the original SamKnows boxes were not used as a modem but just acted as a transparent switch. You plugged the SamKnows box in to your existing router and then plugged everything else in to the SamKnows box.

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

Oldjim — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:47:34 GMT

and that is now another reason why I won't use it as I like my Netgear DG834G v4 with the ability to monitor via Routerstats and to fiddle the noise margin when needed

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

Chris — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:52:30 GMT

This page suggests that it's just plugged in to a spare ethernet port on your existing router:
https://www.samknows.eu/index.php/en/guides/installation

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

Oldjim — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:59:15 GMT

Correct and that is what the video shows but then it shows the laptop being plugged into the white box but with the internet feed from the existing router.
So all your computers etc. are plugged into the white box which acts as a modem with no ADSL capability which means that your existing router is acting as a modem just like the BT Fibre modem

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

jelv — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:05:44 GMT

Quote from: Oldjim
So all your computers etc. are plugged into the white box which acts as a modem with no ADSL capability which means that your existing router is acting as a modem just like the BT Fibre modem

No the white box acts as a dumb switch. Your original router acts as modem, router (doing NAT translation), DHCP and DNS. I have that setup and RouterStats works fine on to my DG834v1 through the SamKnows box.

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

vetterlein — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:47:58 GMT

Quote from: Oldjim
and that is now another reason why I won't use it as I like my Netgear DG834G v4 with the ability to monitor via Routerstats and to fiddle the noise margin when needed

I have a DG834G (in a cardboard box) .... this sounds like you installed openwrt , is that right?

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

Oldjim — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:54:17 GMT

Nope - the version 4 works fine with the Netgear firmware

Re: so how do a make a poll (asksam)

RPMozley — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:58:22 GMT

@ vetterlein
No, that is not right. First thing is that you only need to put the router into debug mode with the official firmware to allow noise margin 'fiddling' or by simply using RouterStats Telnet option to set the margin. Lastly OpenWRT don't have a 'working' DSL firmware capable version available for the DG834Gv4, so you won't be able to use the built-in modem making it effectively useless with ADSL.