topic Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter? in My Order

Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

sn5775 — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:41:41 GMT

Hi,

We're upgrading from ADSL this morning. Plusnet have sent an ADSL microfilter with the Hub 2. Do we still need to use it with Fibre?

Thank you in advance.

Steve.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

jab1 — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:45:23 GMT

@sn5775 What Master socket do you have?

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

Mustrum — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:47:25 GMT

@sn5775 yes, unless you have a filtered master socket.

They should also be used in any extension sockets unless you have a filtered master socket.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

MisterW — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:49:17 GMT

@sn5775 technically no!. The microfilter filters the DSL signal from phone connections, the incoming line is connected directly to the DSL side of the filter. However unless you have a master socket with a DSL (RJ11) connection then you will need a filter (or adapter) to convert the BT phone type connection to an RJ11.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

MisterW — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:51:42 GMT

yes, unless you have a filtered master socket.

@Mustrum there is no phone service with SoGEA, therefore there is no need to filter the signal to non existent phones!

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

Mustrum — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:57:28 GMT

@MisterW except the need for the physical change to RJ11 oh and the desire to stop broadband speeds being slowed by extension wiring.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

Baldrick1 — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:01:57 GMT

@Mustrum

The best way to deal with extension wiring is to disconnect it at the BT Master socket.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

MisterW — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:04:16 GMT

Yup, plugging a filter into an extension will not help reduce the effect of the extension wiring.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

Mustrum — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:05:18 GMT

@Baldrick1 yes, which a filtered master socket will do.

But that was not the question raised by the OP.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

sn5775 — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:08:34 GMT

Thank you for the replies. I think our master socket is an NTE5, installed around 1985. It has a single outlet with a BT style plug on it. There is no extension wiring. We have a long cable between the master socket and the DSL router which has a BT style plug at the master socket and the small plastic plug at the router end. This cable is between 5 and 10 metres long. i have taken a photo of the master socket but i have been unable to figure out how to upload it here.

Thanks again.

Steve.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

jab1 — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:19:00 GMT

@sn5775 If you are using a laptop/desktop click the icon next to the right of the smiley face and follow instructions, if you are using a phone/tablet,select 'request desktop site' and then do as above.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

MisterW — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:21:39 GMT

have taken a photo of the master socket but i have been unable to figure out how to upload it here.

@sn5775 use the 'Insert photos' icon ( just to the left of the video camera icon )

We have a long cable between the master socket and the DSL router which has a BT style plug at the master socket and the small plastic plug at the router end.

My guess that this is a BT plug to RJ11 cable but a picture of this would also be useful.

If I'm correct, then I assume you arent currently using a filter ?

I have reservations about the use of a long cable, they are often not good quality and can affect the speeds

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

sn5775 — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:27:26 GMT

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

MisterW — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:54:02 GMT

@sn5775 uugh! that cable doesnt look too good, its not twisted pair or screened.

Its probably not affecting your ADSL speed too much but MAY impact the performance of a SoGEA connectio

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

sn5775 — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:09:42 GMT

I've just had a look at cabling. The BT master socket and the router are on opposite sides of the room. there is a short extension cable leading from the master socket approximately 2 meters which is the one that @MisterW is referring to. then there is an ADSL filter, into which our landline is connected alongside the long cable approximately 5 metres to the ADSL router.
We are seriously considering placing the new router directly next to the master socket.

Re: Does SOGEA FTTC need a microfilter?

MisterW — Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:15:53 GMT

We are seriously considering placing the new router directly next to the master socket.

That would be the best option if possible. You will need to use the supplied filter, purely to change from a BT socket to an RJ11.

Plus the supplied filter into the master socket and then use the cable supplied with the router to connect it to the filter.

Obviously there is no landline with the SoGEA product , so there's no need to plug a phone in anywhere .