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    <title>topic Re: Order delayed in My Order</title>
    <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899188#M26141</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;The 10-day delay is an Ofcom consumer protection measure.&amp;nbsp; In years gone by an ISP of&amp;nbsp;palilogia name used high pressure sales calls which enticed users to say the word "Yes" (to nearly anything) and ended up in a new contract and their phone services being switched when that was not their intention.&amp;nbsp; Ofcom rightly imposed a requirement that migrating users should receive a confirmation of intent to move, which had a 10-working day safety net.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Accidental line takeover (in part due to due to imprecise asset records in BT Openreach's systems) are also "trapped" by the same safety measures.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Given that this is how the industry works, most ISP suppliers will accept a migration termination notice within the last month of the contract without early termination charges.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Advising only the new supplier of the transfer date prevents inter-organisation order lockouts on the line (as experienced here) and avoids the risk that BT Openreach engineer (non) availability on the preferred switch date does not leave the customer entirely without service.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2022 11:31:14 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-11-24T11:31:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894859#M25598</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hi all,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;an hour after ordering the broadband, I've received a text message saying&amp;nbsp;my order has been delayed. The customer service has been a long wait and there is no information on the account stating why there is a delay. Can anyone tell me more details? I am switching from BT. Also will Plusnet notify BT that I am switching? I will explain: BT has 30 days notice period to stop the service. An exception is if the user switches to another provider and the provider notifies them (ridiculous). In that case the notice will go down to 14 days. This would save me some money of course.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thanks.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 08:35:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894859#M25598</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-26T08:35:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894863#M25600</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/115926"&gt;@andreamarangoni&lt;/a&gt; Welcome to the forums. From what I have seen on here recently, that automated message seems to go to everyone seeking a new connection/change of ISP - and I'm sorry I don't know why. You could try ringing in, but be prepared for a long wait. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;All transfers are now 'Gaining Provider Lead' - which means they handle informing your previous ISP, so there is nothing you need or should do in this regard.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 09:05:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894863#M25600</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-26T09:05:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894885#M25603</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yeah last time I waited ~30min with no answer... is this long wait common? I am wondering if I made a mistake &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":neutral_face:"&gt;😐&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:17:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894885#M25603</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-26T11:17:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894889#M25604</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately at the moment yes, wait times are excessive, but this is supposedly being addressed. I suspect, but can't prove that a lot of these issues are related to the current&amp;nbsp; CWU industrial action.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 11:26:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1894889#M25604</guid>
      <dc:creator>jab1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-26T11:26:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895568#M25714</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No chance to get through to a human on the phone and I there were no update. I am afraid but this situation doesn't leave a good first impression. I might cancel straight away.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 09:39:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895568#M25714</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T09:39:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895593#M25720</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/115926"&gt;@andreamarangoni&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm very sorry to hear about the issues you've had attempting to reach the team lately. I can see that the provisioning team have provided an update this morning, &lt;A href="https://www.plus.net/wizard/?p=view_question&amp;amp;id=228635669" target="_blank"&gt;which can be found here.&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:33:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895593#M25720</guid>
      <dc:creator>TheMightyAJ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T12:33:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895600#M25721</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That is not helping though, is it? I placed an order to get the broadband on the 8th November, cancelled the previous one and now the provision team say there is an order for the 24th November? why they say there is an order for the 24th?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am wasting money and cannot work either..&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:59:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895600#M25721</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T12:59:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895603#M25722</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am very sorry for any inconvenience that this might have caused. When you say that you have cancelled the previous one, are you referring to the contract you had in place with BT?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:15:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895603#M25722</guid>
      <dc:creator>TheMightyAJ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T13:15:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895605#M25724</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;yeah exactly. sorry for the lack of clarity&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:38:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895605#M25724</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T13:38:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895607#M25725</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for confirming that. Is it the case that the services provided by BT have already been ceased, or are they currently awaiting to be ceased?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:53:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895607#M25725</guid>
      <dc:creator>TheMightyAJ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T13:53:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895609#M25726</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;"BT has 30 days notice period to stop the service. An exception is if the user switches to another provider and the provider notifies them (ridiculous). In that case the notice will go down to 14 days. This would save me some money of course."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If Plusnet would start on the 8th as I selected during the order, the notice period of 14 days would end exactly on the 8th. I would save 15 days of notice period with BT (~ £20).&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:02:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895609#M25726</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T14:02:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895614#M25729</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for confirming that. I've raised a further response via a support ticket on your account &lt;A href="https://www.plus.net/wizard/?p=view_question&amp;amp;id=228775720" target="_blank"&gt;which can be accessed here.&lt;/A&gt; Please let me know if you have any further questions at this time and I'll be happy to assist wherever I can.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 15:28:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895614#M25729</guid>
      <dc:creator>TheMightyAJ</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T15:28:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895625#M25733</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When you say that you have cancelled the previous one, are you referring to the contract you had in place with BT?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/115926"&gt;@andreamarangoni&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;yeah exactly. sorry for the lack of clarity&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Oh dear, this is exactly what a user changing suppliers should NOT DO.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Doing this will ASSURE that there will be DELAYS and most likely a loss of internet service and the landline phone number.&amp;nbsp; When choosing to change supplier, LEAVE the FULL PROCESS in the hands of the NEW ISP (gaining suppler).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If a user tells their existing supplier to cease service, the following will happen...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;The existing user will set a service cease date on the line - this "locks" the line&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Whilst there is an open service cease order on a line, other ISPs CANNOT PLACE NEW ORDERS - they will be cancelled by BT Openreach&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;When the existing service ceases, only then can the new ISP raise an order to take over the line - that can take a couple of days to get the phone line working and then thereafter at least another 5 days to get broadband operations (these are BT Openreach's service provision lead times)&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Interfering with the &lt;EM&gt;gaining supplier led service migration&lt;/EM&gt; process will lead to delays and loss of service ... exactly as you have described.&amp;nbsp; All that can now be done is to sit and wait to BT Openreach to get around to restoring a connection as per their published lead times for a NEW service provision.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Moderators Note:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;Typo corrected&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 18:27:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895625#M25733</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T18:27:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895637#M25740</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have just called BT and they told me everything they did was to cancel the service and Plusnet should be able to take over the line.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What now?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 17:43:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895637#M25740</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T17:43:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895639#M25741</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If the service termination is complete, a new ISP can now raise new orders on the line.&amp;nbsp; Depending on the precise state of the line in BT Openreach systems, restarting the PHONE service can be as quick as 48 hours, but restarting the broadband service is usually AT LEAST 5 working days.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 17:55:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1895639#M25741</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-31T17:55:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899115#M26133</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Still haven't received an email, a text, the router. guys!!! I want my money back this is not a service. Also Plusnet works with BT in the first place. FML.&amp;nbsp; Plus BT made me pay in full and don't know if I will ever get money back&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Someone can cancel please and refund ? I am not going to call as&amp;nbsp; nobody is going to answer me anyway.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2022 22:04:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899115#M26133</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-23T22:04:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899137#M26134</link>
      <description>BT works with Plusnet is a total misunderstanding presumption.  The opposite would be nearer the truth.  BT Retail, BT Wholesale, BT Openreach and Plusnet all work at (more than) arms length apart from each other under Ofcom “level playing field” rules so that no ISP is favoured over another.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This sorry mess started when the service was cancelled direct with BT rather than leaving the migration process to the new supplier.  Users cannot cancel contracts through the forums.  Such cancellations must be done over the telephone or in writing.  See the legal link at the foot of the page.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:29:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899137#M26134</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-24T06:29:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899138#M26135</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Contact Customer Options Team (aka COTS)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;COTs is the place to go to if you want to find out anything to do with your contract in respect of leaving, renewing or simply enquiring about early termination charges (ETCs). They have their own number and tend to answer quicker than the general customer service number.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Direct dial numbers&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;0800 013 2632 &lt;EM&gt;(from within the UK)&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;+44 330 123 9197 &lt;EM&gt;(from abroad)&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Available...
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;8am - 8pm Monday to Friday&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;9am - 7pm Saturday&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;9am - 6pm Sunday&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2022 06:31:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899138#M26135</guid>
      <dc:creator>Townman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-24T06:31:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899161#M26137</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.plus.net/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5145"&gt;@Townman&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;This sorry mess started when the service was cancelled direct with BT rather than leaving the migration process to the new supplier. Users cannot cancel contracts through the forums. Such cancellations must be done over the telephone or in writing. See the legal link at the foot of the page.&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You know users can do the craziest thing when switching so why not write it bigger in a page and make sure the user, if switching, is informed ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2022 09:26:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899161#M26137</guid>
      <dc:creator>andreamarangoni</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-24T09:26:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Order delayed</title>
      <link>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899164#M26138</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi there, I'm really sorry about the delay. The order failed to progress so far due to an open cease order, that's now been cleared off so at this stage we should be able to now place an order to get fibre up and running for you. Let me know if you'd like to go ahead with that and I can get the ball rolling for you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2022 10:04:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.plus.net/t5/My-Order/Order-delayed/m-p/1899164#M26138</guid>
      <dc:creator>adamwalker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-11-24T10:04:27Z</dc:date>
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