topic Re: Movement on PN IPv6 in IPv6 Trial

New IPv6 Trial announced

corringham — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:19:42 GMT

Plusnet have announced a new IPv6 trial - reported by ISPReview here

Movement on PN IPv6

bmc — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:23:17 GMT

As per the title.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/11/broadband-isp-plusnet-uk-prep-new-ipv6-technical-trial.html

Brian

Re: Movement on PN IPv6

zpeterk — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:34:33 GMT

"I was on the original trial, I wonder if you can get on this one

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

RichardB — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:20:37 GMT

Thanks that is interesting.

It is not clear from ISPr if PN want some volunteers.

If they do I would be happy to take part. 🙂

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

corringham — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:09 GMT

From the sound of it the trial is limited to a total of 20 staff and tame customers and 2 MSEs, for a period of 3 months - so not a very big trial!

I'm unsure what MSEs are - Medium Small Enterprise? If so seems daft as they are closing business accounts. If not I have no idea what a MSE is. But anyway there will be 2 of them in the trial.

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

RichardB — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:33:52 GMT

Hi @corringham

Have a look at:

https://kitz.co.uk/adsl/BTwholesale_network.htm

MSE - Multi Server Edge.

and

https://kitz.co.uk/adsl/MSE_BRAS.htm

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

corringham — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:45:49 GMT

@RichardB thanks for the info. I was trained in telecoms technology 40 years ago - but things like MSEs hadn't been invented then!

Anyway, the two MSEs are in Chesterfield and Sheffield - so that will restrict the location of the trial participants.

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Mav — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:03:47 GMT

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Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Townman — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:11:03 GMT

@corringham wrote:

I'm unsure what MSEs are - Medium Small Enterprise? If so seems daft as they are closing business accounts. If not I have no idea what a MSE is. But anyway there will be 2 of them in the trial.

And such is the danger of using ambiguous TLAs rather than spelling out the Three Letter Abbreviation.

I too read that statement as Medium Small Enterprise - but did not connect to the irony of business account closures!

Re: Movement on PN IPv6

MJN — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:27:25 GMT

@bmc wrote:

As per the title.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/11/broadband-isp-plusnet-uk-prep-new-ipv6-technical-trial.html

Brian

That's great news - thanks for spotting/sharing Brian.

I (and my IPv6 cat feeder!) was on the original trial and would be very keen to support this one too.

Edit: Ah, I see from the slides that the trial would initially be focused on 'Low Touch' side of the network which given I've got a static IPv4 address would rule me out. Great news never the less, and I hope it goes well!

Re: Movement on PN IPv6

Protech — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:51:28 GMT

For those interested in network tech , the link to the presentation is below

https://www.ipv6.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/04_Plusnet_IPv6_update_DaveTomlinson.pdf

One takeaway from this presentation is that this forum is IPv6 enabled, which has been suspected for by some for a while 😉

A question is why Plusnet's rekindled interest in IPv6 now ?

Re: Movement on PN IPv6

MJN — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:57:14 GMT

@Protech wrote:

One takeaway from this presentation is that this forum is IPv6 enabled, which has been suspected for by some for a while 😉

Only by virtue of it being fronted by a Lithium CDN though so it is really someone else's IPv6 that is being used! (Actually, to be fair for all I know the forum backend might support IPv6 too so I shouldn't jump to conclusions.)

A question is why Plusnet's rekindled interest in IPv6 now ?

For nearly all networks, particularly ISPs, it has always been a question of when and not if so perhaps it is just the usual drivers coming to a head - IPv4 exhaustion, cost of CG-NAT and other workarounds, rest of the world migrating etc.

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

brueton — Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:06:26 GMT

I too was on the original IPv6 trial and would be happy to take part again.

I am speculating that there is a financial reason behind any new trial.

Maybe establishing a cost for the move to IPv6 / IPv4 that can be compared with the cost of remaining IPv4 only.

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Dan_the_Van — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:03:23 GMT

@Townman

Might MSE stand for 'Microsoft Systems Engineer'? I suspect they are two of the current 'super users' we have.

Dan

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Champnet — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:13:21 GMT

@Dan_the_Van Close but it was MCSE, unless there's an uncertified qualification.

Wonder if my SFT III certificate will do.................

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Dan_the_Van — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:22:40 GMT

@Champnet

Maybe it should have been MCSE, possible editorial failure at ISP Review, wouldn't be the first time!

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

Townman — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:32:18 GMT

Not me - I could not pass the exams - I knew the technical practicalities but could never get the right answers to the marketing spin questions.

Re: Movement on PN IPv6

corringham — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:35:46 GMT

@Protech wrote:

A question is why Plusnet's rekindled interest in IPv6 now ?

Perhaps it will ease the en-masse migration of Plusnet's customer base to EE?

Re: Movement on PN IPv6

Champnet — Wed, 22 Nov 2023 10:26:20 GMT

@Townman For years I ran Novell systems, netware versions 2, 3 & 4. For a while I thought about going for the NCE certificate. Reading the course notes I realised that what they were teaching bore no resemblance to the way real systems were being run so I didn’t bother. I reached the the top of my profession, the only qualification being experience. Don’t think I would get away with that now….

Re: New IPv6 Trial announced

BrianC — Thu, 21 Dec 2023 10:45:33 GMT

Everybody knows it's Money Saving Expert 🙂